I think if Hatton wins, and Zab takes a lil time off, then Hatton would pick Zab for his next opponent. He is the best-bet to beat of that group, and he would still be a big payday. Plus Zab puts himself out there way too much, he fights kind of like Roy Jones but leaves himself open/in bad positions way more than RJ ever did. Ricky could grapple and push Zab around, which would piss Zab off, so he'd try and load up his punches and let his hands down. I think Hatton beats Zab 9/10 times.
Same venue/ different date
We had our break and rest and thinkin bout the fight and we're gon activate the clause.
Rematch in spring 08. Titles. Whatever's on the line. Whatever the boxing boards want to recognise. It dont matter.
Thank you to all my fans. Won't let you down again.
Expect the word by weekend
hell, probably is jt. tight
i think its him BECAUSE of the JOIN TIME. he joined after he lost, when someone is most interested in seeing what people have to say about him. and when you most want to defend yourself. you dig?
to orginal question. NO.
espn and other networks have barely picked up this fight's sniff. they were all over the odlh fight because oscar is the biggest name in boxing, still, obviously. i think it'll gain steam as the fight nears, but it's not going to get the "fight to save boxing" type shit. thats how you KNOW something is big.. when they say that dumbshit.
yeah, what he said. i might buy just to see..... "history" be made (hopefully). i'd hope it was a good eastern bloc undercard tho, that would be worth just as much as the main-event.. how often can you say that?
Due to the fact that boxing is now 12 rounds, not 15, it is a round-by-round sport more so than a "battle" sport. Simple as that. Cotto won more rounds, but I do agree that Mosley had him LOOKING LIKE he was within 3 rounds of getting knocked out/turning the round-by-round total in Mosley's favor.
Mosley's last-fourth of the fight did, however, warrant him to get a re-match. That bein' said, ummm, Mosley will be older and Cotto will probably be better..
In the re-match I think it's fairly obvious that Cotto would win by 8-10 rd. Kayo.. I don't think Mosley should take the fight. I think he should go after Hatton, PBF, ODLH. All of whom are less dangerous than Cotto and after seeing Sugar last night, I think he'd beat 'em all, honestly.
Cotto is real, real good 'tho. Mosley was on the top of his game and Cotto probably took 8 of 12 rounds on over 50% (a majority) of people's score cards. I actually think he should've done the southpaw swap earlier in the fight, before he got stung real bad. I think that would of been the move that could've led to a knockout/easier win, but the way he switched it was like he was running out of ideas or something. (Which hurts the looks of his win even more, IMO)
Annnnnyways.. Cotto won. I'd like to see Cotto-Hatton, PBF-Sugar WAY more than I would want to see Cotto-PBF, Cotto-Sugar II..
Do you really think that Hatton will beat Floyd?
Save some money for Cotto-Oscar on May 2008.
Nah, not really. But ODLH-Hatton @ Dodger Stadium happens regardless..
lets face simple facts. ali's mind games would've had tyson going loco before the fight even went down. and, if it did, he would be completely in-effective. read atlas' book and his fight against the white kid who wouldn't go down = what would happen, except ali would kayo his ass and not get beat that bad.
I was so impressed with chambers stamina. I think he could have thrown twice as many punches and still have more than enough in the tank.
uhhhhhhhh then he would've thrown more. he was more tired than people want to admit. looked sluggish from the get-go.
This helps Mayorga and his career.. After he wins by TKO and looks pretty decent at SMW look for him to call out Taylor, Pavlik or Bute and then fight one of them. Him v. Pavlik would be a good fight. Bute would demolish him.. Taylor would probably win on the cards.
jeez.. I doubt they're going to be in worse shape than 95% of the HW field, and people always pay for those fights.
plus, vargas didn't look too bad at 162 v. Joval. Hell, he may of weighed 168 by the time of the fight. Y'all just need to take a moment, step back, realize that there is a difference in moving up 10 or so pounds as compared to James Toney Supersize Me 100 pound move up.. Okay? These dudes have been training for quite a while, especially Mayorga. I think it's going to be all right in the end. It's still going to be a KO win for someone, now it's just going to be later in the fight, thus you get even more bang for your buck.
Oscar slowly and tactifully took him apart bit by bit in a way that was 10 times more elegant than Mayweather/Gatti. It was a style's fight, and Oscar was the exact perfect fighter for the 2 color-rubix cube that is Mayorga.
Mayorga/Pavlik on the other hand would be a bit more interesting. I think a punched-out Taylor and Mayorga are a dead-even heat. That bein' said, Mayorga would last at least 6-8 rounds. That's 6-8 rounds of him throwing punches that could end the fight at anytime.
Let's see how well he does against Vargas. Then decide. I think the 8 extra pounds are really going to help Mayorga, personally. He is a heavy bag puncher, those extra pounds are going to bring extra grounding/anchorage/leverage. Helps his power and his ability to take shots.
i'm pretty sure that he is one of the few famous people out there that people ACTUALLY know EXACTLY what the dude is like. if he saw someone getting mugged, you know he would just keep on walkin. might even start whistling, prick.. he is obviously a self-centered, inconsiderate asshole. i mean, seriously, some people like that.. but that is still what and who he is.
If Tito went down in 3 to Mayorga then he'll go down in less than 6 to Jones with even more age added to that body.
I could see Jones fighting Mayorga, Pavlik, Taylor, Kessler, B-Hop, JoeC, any of 'em. In that order probably.
The more I think about the fact that Vargas/Mayorga is going to be SMW and with it happening so close to Jone/Tito at 170 makes me think that Mayorga/Jones might be in the cards afterwards. I mean Pavlik and Taylor are going to be tied up for quite a bit, B-Hop is probably already getting the winner of Kes/Joe, Bute should already be getting the loser (IMHO), so that puts Jones still 1 more fight out of a big glory title shot. Soooo.. why not throw him in with another bloated up semi-decent-big name (hell, he did fight oscar, ha) that he should beat on paper with ease. PLUS, it's another catch-weight at 170 fight which keeps open title shots at both 168 and 175. It's a win-win-win for all parties, imo.
You are remembering those fights in a way that I do not.
Mayorga, after the first round, had pulled himself back in. Oscar was starting to struggle and FMS was screaming at him to get his ass in gear and go KO Rico. Mayorga was actually landing shots on Oscar.
By contrast, PBF shut Gatti down from minute one, and Arturo did not land anything meaningful all night. Gatti would go 30 - 60 seconds without landing a single punch. It was a clinic in how to take apart a slugger.
Mayweather Sr. was constantly shouting for him to jab, not to finish him, mang. He had him fighting a technical, countering fight off of his jab. It was one of FMS's better managed fights, IMHO. Oscar had Mayorga shut down before the fight even started.. And with the constant rememberance to keep jabbing Mayorga never stood a chance. Where as in the Gatti fight there were times where Gatti took punches to move close enough to cause damage but then basically gave up and backed back off, only to take more punches and back off again, put Mayorga in that situation and he would've kept forcing and probably landed a few decent shots. Gatti got owned, but still, not in the way Oscar did it to Mayorga. Anytime Mayorga got close and through the jab ODLH backed him down with solid counters, punches at angles, or a combination. Gatti/Mayweather is a hard fight to watch because Mayweather is playing Matador and Gatti doesn't know if wants to be a bull or not. Mayorga is going to be a bull against Vargas, and Vargas will probably try and be a bull back. I don't think it's going to work.
PLUS Mayorga fought at 154 as early as 2000. That is almost 7 whole years to figure out how to add 14 more pounds, in a good way. I think he is going to look fine. I mean he knows he has to look good, right? He is STILL just now coming off the loss to Oscar and he is getting a damaged goods opponent that could still lead to big money if he wins the way he should.
edit: I hate to keep adding but the dude might finally have his head straight now. Ever since he cost HIMSELF the Spinks fight (and 3 belts) he hasn't been the same fighter. This is his first chance with the odds really stacked in his favor to get back on track. Come on, don't diss on the one side of this bout that actually still means something outside of future blood swapping, steroid, and AIDs stories.
I think he would've won Bowe I, probably knocked out Foreman (which would've been a pretty impressive feat), not lost ALL (keyword all) of those bouts prior to Tyson.
I think it mattered more earlier in his career when he was lighter, ala early-mid 90's. I think he might've pulled out that first fight with Lewis, too, had he had more endurance.
Probably what keeps him from being an ATG. At the same time, it might be what has extended his career, as the wear & tear on legs from running at 230 lbs. is probably pretty intense. Just look at football players, they usually burn out at 30-ish.
Mayweather hasn't fought anybody who will keep pressing that also has skill. ODLH fought as if the fight were to go 15, had he doubled up his combos he probably would've scored the knockout. If you stalk Mayweather from the inside he CAN'T hurt you. If you try and stalk from the outside then he'll duck, dodge, and counter all night, and will probably knock your tired ass out.
The key is pushing his ass around.
I think Hatton-Mayweather will look a lot technically like Holyfield-Tyson I.