according to doghouse mayorga ok'd the weight limit for the fight against vargas to be raised to 168....wtf?.......vargas just can not lose the damn weight......man i see vargas tiring early and mayorga getting target practice until the fight is stopped.....
I wish Mayorga would have canceled the vargas fight when it got postponed and Cintron made him an offer to fight at 154lbs., like he had already planned. Mayorga probably would have lost, but if he did so in an entertaining fashion he could have lined up some fighters for himself for good money at 147. Mayorga/ Berto, Mayorga/ Zab, Mayorga/ Margarito. Even if he looks good at SMW, what's that do for his future? Calzaghe? Jermain taylor? Pavlik? Kessler? these guys would tear him apart. should have taken cintron. Cintron/ Mayorga would have been 10x better than cintron/ feliciano and mayorga/ vargas.
You are remembering those fights in a way that I do not.
Mayorga, after the first round, had pulled himself back in. Oscar was starting to struggle and FMS was screaming at him to get his ass in gear and go KO Rico. Mayorga was actually landing shots on Oscar.
By contrast, PBF shut Gatti down from minute one, and Arturo did not land anything meaningful all night. Gatti would go 30 - 60 seconds without landing a single punch. It was a clinic in how to take apart a slugger.
Mayweather Sr. was constantly shouting for him to jab, not to finish him, mang. He had him fighting a technical, countering fight off of his jab. It was one of FMS's better managed fights, IMHO. Oscar had Mayorga shut down before the fight even started.. And with the constant rememberance to keep jabbing Mayorga never stood a chance. Where as in the Gatti fight there were times where Gatti took punches to move close enough to cause damage but then basically gave up and backed back off, only to take more punches and back off again, put Mayorga in that situation and he would've kept forcing and probably landed a few decent shots. Gatti got owned, but still, not in the way Oscar did it to Mayorga. Anytime Mayorga got close and through the jab ODLH backed him down with solid counters, punches at angles, or a combination. Gatti/Mayweather is a hard fight to watch because Mayweather is playing Matador and Gatti doesn't know if wants to be a bull or not. Mayorga is going to be a bull against Vargas, and Vargas will probably try and be a bull back. I don't think it's going to work.
jeez.. I doubt they're going to be in worse shape than 95% of the HW field, and people always pay for those fights.
plus, vargas didn't look too bad at 162 v. Joval. Hell, he may of weighed 168 by the time of the fight. Y'all just need to take a moment, step back, realize that there is a difference in moving up 10 or so pounds as compared to James Toney Supersize Me 100 pound move up.. Okay? These dudes have been training for quite a while, especially Mayorga. I think it's going to be all right in the end. It's still going to be a KO win for someone, now it's just going to be later in the fight, thus you get even more bang for your buck.
PLUS Mayorga fought at 154 as early as 2000. That is almost 7 whole years to figure out how to add 14 more pounds, in a good way. I think he is going to look fine. I mean he knows he has to look good, right? He is STILL just now coming off the loss to Oscar and he is getting a damaged goods opponent that could still lead to big money if he wins the way he should.
edit: I hate to keep adding but the dude might finally have his head straight now. Ever since he cost HIMSELF the Spinks fight (and 3 belts) he hasn't been the same fighter. This is his first chance with the odds really stacked in his favor to get back on track. Come on, don't diss on the one side of this bout that actually still means something outside of future blood swapping, steroid, and AIDs stories.
Oscar slowly and tactifully took him apart bit by bit in a way that was 10 times more elegant than Mayweather/Gatti. It was a style's fight, and Oscar was the exact perfect fighter for the 2 color-rubix cube that is Mayorga.
Mayorga/Pavlik on the other hand would be a bit more interesting. I think a punched-out Taylor and Mayorga are a dead-even heat. That bein' said, Mayorga would last at least 6-8 rounds. That's 6-8 rounds of him throwing punches that could end the fight at anytime.
Let's see how well he does against Vargas. Then decide. I think the 8 extra pounds are really going to help Mayorga, personally. He is a heavy bag puncher, those extra pounds are going to bring extra grounding/anchorage/leverage. Helps his power and his ability to take shots.
both fighters will look like shit in this one, i think mayorga should come in at around 160, much fitter than he would be at 168 and try to take vargas into the later rounds. fatty should be dead on his feet by r9
This helps Mayorga and his career.. After he wins by TKO and looks pretty decent at SMW look for him to call out Taylor, Pavlik or Bute and then fight one of them. Him v. Pavlik would be a good fight. Bute would demolish him.. Taylor would probably win on the cards.
First i was for vargas, but mayorga was right he can make the weight, even if he is a trash talker mayorga is a true fighter by accepting this weight. But th fight will me less exiting i thinK.
This information ios wrong. Vargas himself has said its still at 165. Here is what Vargas said himself. Its a screenshot from one of his myspace bulletins. My friend sent this to me when we were discussing the supposed change in weights.
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t11/chukk77/vargas.jpg
Vargas is a fat slob, Mayorga will KO him with ease
To quote Mayorga at the press conference " I am gonna finish you off fatty, so your wife and kids won't have to cry themselves to sleep anymore "