What you must remember when comparing Khan to Frampton, or even Brook, is that Khan has won titles and fought in two divisions prior to this. 135lb and 140lb.
He is currently competing at world level in his third division at 147lb !
So to be fair to Khan. He is the most proven out of those around him.
Very well spoken by Groves. Broner should take some tips from this lad.
It may seem as though it is all over for Groves, but Amir Khan is a great example of a person that got up from his KO defeat and forged a fantastic career for himself. I'm sure Groves can.
Wish him all the best.
No.
Kell Brook has not fought anyone of any significance. Hes avoided Alexander in a title fight. Is fighting a TBA in march fought Carson Jones twice when he should have been fighting world level fighters. He has yet to prove he's anything more than a European level fighter.
maybe if he obtains a world title or beats a Thurman, Collazo, Berto etc
Khan should try and get a title shot work his way to Mayweather and retire. hes on the othersidede of the hill now.
He'll absolutely get picked apart. Unless you haven't realised Khan doesn't seem to be attacking with volume like he did under Roach. Against Diaz he was picking one or two shots here and there.
The Khan from Roaches Wild card Gym would give a much better fight but not the Khan from Virgil's gym. He seems to still be open for hooks and over hand rights whilst having decreased his volume.
Agaisnt Mayweather IMO he would be completely picked apart and stopped with precision perfect hurtful timed shots whilst using his movement. Khan won't even trouble Mayweather with his shots/power.
No one currently. However Manny Pacquiao of 2- 3 years ago would cause huge problems.
Speed, power, angles, volume of punches, southpaw, and finally the confidence of coming through some huge fights unscathed.
matthysse v Garcia.
I could not think of a single way that garcia would beat Matthysse apart from a fluke knockout. I was very wrong. Credit to Garcia he transformed himself for that fight and beat him convincingly.
I think he could take over the 140 division now that danny, broner, lucas, jmm, ruslan, alvardo, all appear to be heading up in the next 18 months
is he with TR or GBP,, i cant remember, Cause i would love to see him fight either crawford or Figuero
Pretty sure he's with TR. In top shape i reckon he could box the ears off alot of those that are moving to 147. If i remember correctly he fought his last fight with just his left hand.
he's had chronic hand issues.
Injuries is the main factor,,,
but the dude has a bright future if he can stay healthy,,,
Certainly has hope the guy recovers soon. Appears to have talents that would allow him to hang with the best.
I saw him sparring in Big Bear a few days ago.. Interview/photos/video to drop soon
Great look forward to it.
they bit off more than they could chew by moving to 147. Jumped to grab the belt from Paulie then overestimated Broner and underestimated Maidana.
seriously think they should have built him up at 135 then 140 and then when opportunity arose at 147 after building him up.
I personally believe the Khan since the introduction of Virgil is a different lesser Khan than he used to be. maybe its a combination of the Garcia KO or the hesitant picking his shots tactics hes taught. This Khan loses to Bradley.
The Khan from the Wild card would beat Bradley.
Winner of Matthysse-Garcia.
I agree with Matthysse being round about the best.
However i'm not convinced with Garcia. I think Rios, Alvarado and Maidana would end Garcia in the first 5 rounds. With arguably Peterson also giving him a very hard time. Matthysse decapitates him.
That's the Khan that i miss. Fast and explosive.
He takes the punches very flush though, instead of riding them with upper body or head movement. Some of the punches he took cleanly would have taken an elephant out.
It's not easy winning a handicapped match.
Had Maidana knocked out Khan, Joe would have hit him with a steel chair and laid Khan's lifeless corpse on top of him and counted, declaring Khan the winner.
Think you've seen one too many WWF matches... or whatever they are called nowadays.
Apparently Garcia had some pretty credible amateur experience, so he could outbox Rios and Maidana, but if he decides to trade I agree they'd annihilate him!
I dont mind Danny but I agree, Alvarado and Peterson would beat him also! He's doing well at the moment but he seems too limited. I'd love to see how his power would hold up against guys like Brandon, Alvarado and Lucas.
I think Garcia is limited and the guys mentioned would walk through his IMO and land destructive shots of their own and Garcia was rattled vs Judah. I also think any guy that fights on thr inside would give Danny huuuuuge trouble. He seems to struggle in close and is limited to wide loopy shots. Brandon sits on the inside and would finish Garcia pretty easy.
No. If Khan fought the way he did against Garcia last night, he would have been ko'd. By throwing those random fluries you leave yourself open and become very predictable. Once you're in there with someone who's got timing and power, you would be in huge trouble. Diaz was looking to counter Khan all night but khan didn't leave himself as open because he cut down on his usual flurries.
He was nearly KO'd fighting defensively yesterday on numerous occasions. At least with Freddie he'd chop his opponent up and move around. His attack and subsequent movement around the ring was his defence. In the Garcia fight he pressed too much and was way too aggressive.
A slightly less aggressive Khan like the way he fought Judah or Maidana with Freddie is the best Khan.
I think Matthysse will force a TKO. I think matthysse has decided he is no longer going to leave the decision in the hands of the Judges. He absolutely battered and stopped Olusegun, a guy that was undefeated. Had Soto on the back foot and forced a stoppage and shut down Mike dallas Jr pretty quick. It can be argued that these opponents weren't worldd class but they were credible opponents.
In my opinion only a well skilled boxer will beat the newer Matthysse. Peterson was hurt and rocked by Ortiz and even a guy with not as much power in Khan. IMO Peterson gets stopped by the 6th round. UNLESS he takes to boxing Matthysse and staying on the outside and moving, even then i reckon Matthysse cuts off the ring and closes the show.
Ask Ajose who's a pure boxer. Everyone has a plan till they get hit and see the ring cut in half.
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He absolutely steam rolled Ajose, no matter what Ajose tried there was only one outcome that night. It's why i think a determined Matthysse will do the same to Peterson.
I'm not sure i could make a list but from current fighters Matthysse looks a cold killer, Froch looks slightly rough and intimadating. Tyson has to make the top of any list in this dept.
I would have to disagree with Froch here. Khan has losses to Prescott, Garcia and a hometown robbery to a juiced up Peterson that Khan beat. They were not Khan's most top level fighters.
Prescott is far from Top level. Garcia was getting pommled until the head down eyes closed left hook and is far from top level as we've seen and Peterson.... i shall go no further.
If you were to argue that Khan loses when he steps he would have lost against Malignaggi and Kotelnik, in Khans first international fights.
Khan would have lost to Maidana, lost to Collazo in his first fight at 147, and lost to Alexander who is a credible top level fighter.
Froch is an individual who has a great resume but little character. I'd say the lad is jealous of Khan who has many fights in Vegas, something Froch has yet to achieve.