Darryl1914

This is a joke thread...right?

Manny is 2-0-1 versus JMM....so can anyone tell me why there would be any need or interest in this fight? What would Pacquiao have to prove (or even gain) by beating a 40 year old fighter? Arum has all of you completely fooled (SMH). JMM 3, then Bradley, JMM 4 (in Mexico) then a Bradley Rematch in 201, Arum will squeeze the Pacquiao Money train for every possible dollar before he will even attempt to make the fight we all wanna see. Yet you guys are still screaming: "IT'S FLOYD FAULT". WAKE-UP!!!!!

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ld66j6TcAs1qe0eclo1_r2_500.gif http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u519/mognoose27/cashcow.jpg This is HILARIOUS!!!

Chavez Jr. should not be fighting guys like Lee at this point in his career. If he his ready for the Elite fighters, at least guys like Ishe Smith or even fernando Guererro. Someone or anyone other than fighters like Lee, Manfredy...etc. C'mon man.

Anyone else thinking how awsome it's going to be Bumping this thread:boxing:

So then why hasn't Arum (team Pacquiao) attempted to fight Bradley?

I know this is old It may be old....but it's THRUTH!!! I have posted this several HUNDRED TIMES on different Boxing Forums about what Kenny had said and then everyone (and their momma) posted how Floyd was afraid and ducking Baldomir and Hatton. Then after Floyd beats them....here comes the same S.H.I.T. I think it should be pretty obvious by now that the HATRED of Floyd Mayweather is all EMOTION-BASED and fact/truth/boxing knowledge do not fact into the equation....AT ALL!!!

Boy was I a stupid boxing fan. Hatton sucked, he was a British hypejob. He took asswhoings twice. And then retired to do coke. I can't believed I ever believed in Hatton. Ok...I am not nor ever have been a Hatton fan. But Hatton was a DAMN GOOD, TOP-LEVEL FIGHTER. He has two losses versus the TOP 2 Fighters in the Sport. THAT IS NOTHING TO BE ASHAMED OF!!!

I don't see how it's a duck. Cotto isn't obligated in any way shape or form to fight martinez. If Cotto want's his revenge and money fight against Margarito, he deserves that right and no one should question him, imo. Exactly!!!

Guys, please don't turn this into another silly Floyd-Pac thread. I do NOT feel that Zoo is a HoF'er. I think his career achievements are very overrated. I agree, Tszyu never fought the best fighters of his era. 1) Win or WinS against other prime HoF guys (Pacquiao) This....I absolutely agree with, however, I would not have used Pacquiao as the example here.

Please feed some of these idiots some common sense (The ones that think Pac will have an easy night). My boy does look good and quick with a few more pounds. Marquez by decision. We'll see....

I don't have a problem with the pace that "Canelo" or Chavez Jr. is on right now. I think it's a good thing that they have been fed some decent, durable fighters that gives them a chance to gets some rounds in. They have been going the full 12 versus some solid competition (Rhodes, Hatton, Zbik, Duddy). Does everyone remember David Lemieux of Canada fighting a bunch of "China-Chinned" fighters and winning every fight with 1st & 2nd round KO's. I had been saying for the past year...that Lemieux needs to be in the ring with some fighters to make him go rounds. All of those early KO's will Back-fire on him. And then guess what happened....Rubio takes him past 5 rounds and Lemieux looked completely gassed and folded like a cheap lawn-chair. The pace "Canelo" and Chavez are on....is just fine. all the fighters you guys want them to face...it will happen eventually. They are both young (22 & 24)...there is plenty of time for Cotto, Berto, Cintron...etc. http://www.mun2.tv/files/images/mun2-images/shows/the-mun2-arena/fan-zone-who-is-a-better-boxer-saul-canelo-alvarez-or-julio-cesar-chavez-jr.jpg And because they are both young, around the same weight class....I can easily see this as a next great Mexican Rivalry (Vasquez vs Marquez - Marquez vs Barrera). I can see them fight 3 or maybe 4 time before their careers come to an end.

THATS PACQUAIO HEAD AT 1.33 IF I WHERE A PAC FAN I WOULDENT LOOK At :16 did he just uppercut a speed bag? http://th877.photobucket.com/albums/ab336/Brdleysmth/th_bhywqh.gif

Truth Hurts!!!! http://ithuglife.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/rickjamesslap.gif?w=300&h=225

Anyone on ESPN talking about boxing is just nonsense at this point. Saying Hopkins' win wasn't that great because 'Pascal was a stiff who had no chance' was the last straw for me. If they start to talk boxing, I change the channel. Exactly!!! But if it's Tessatore, Atlas and Charlie Steiner (remember him)...then I'll listen. But these Idiots on PTI or Rome. Please...you may as well listen to Regis & Kelly talk about Boxing!!!

Absolutely. He's a better overall Boxer with Speed, Ability, Athleticism and Some Power. All Margarito was....was just Bigger!!! He brought nothing to the table...no speed, no athleticism, no skill. Just a straight forward easy-2-hit brawler...Perfect for Pacquiao. In fact....this is a dangerous fight for Floyd. he's not a young man anymore, loss of reflexes, long lay-offs and now fighting a southpaw that has some POP, and Ortiz came in well-over 160lbs (on fight night) vs Berto. This is a dangerous fight for Floyd as well as an opportunity to see how he looks at 34 after an extended lay-off. CAN'T WAIT!!!

There is NO shame in losing to Mayweather...At all!!! After this fight Ortiz will still be Top Name in the Sport (among young Stars/Talent). And beating guys like Alfonso Gomez, Selcuk Aydin will put him back in the mix for fight against a Mike Jones and other belt holders. This is by NO means sacrificing Ortiz. In fact this is GBP putting him on the "Big Stage". And if he performs well....then the sky is the limit.

Well sure, but no one really wants to stay busy against a very tough, credible opponent without getting paid handsomely for their trouble. Haha, I just went to Boxrec's top 25 140 pounders ratings, and the first two opponents that I thought "hmmm, that would be a decent fight for what Bradley is looking for" were Kendall Holt and Lamont Peterson... yeah, scratch that, since he already fought both. The rematch with Holt isn't attractive since he hasn't really clawed all the way back up to relevancy in the division by just beating Diaz, as he also took a fairly bad loss to Mabuza in the fight after his loss to Bradley, and a Peterson rematch makes no sense, considering how badly Bradley whipped him, and Lamont is without a really good win in the fights since that loss. His best result is a draw with Ortiz that really should have been a clear decision loss. However, a win over Cayo might be just what he needs to get back into contention. I would think Bradley's best move would be to try to get a fight with Erik Morales, who showed that he isn't shot in his last fight against Maidana, so there is still significant interest (which translates to dollars) around him. However, Bradley has much better defense than Maidana, and a fight with Morales would probably be a pretty easy night's work at this stage of Morales's career. If he can't land Morales, I think Bradley's best bet would be to fight someone like Vernon Paris in Michigan, who is a prospect, but has serious stamina issues that Bradley could seriously exploit and cruise to a wide unanimous decision. Hopefully a good performance up there could help build support for him, as he already fought in Michigan once against Devon Alexander. Another prospect that fits pretty much the same description as Paris is Tim Coleman, who would be easy pickings for Bradley, as he is just too green, and really isn't good enough to compete on that level. His decision win over Mike Arnaoutis was controversial FFS, and at this stage of Mike's career, he has been losing one-sidedly to everyone, except Coleman. That should tell you something. Good Stuff man....Remember when Vernon Paris and Tim Coleman were supposed to fight each other? I think it was on the Bradley/Alexander undercard, then Coleman was replaced with Emanuel Augustus (in his last fight before retirement...and for the record, I heard Augustus got robbed again). Any...I hope he fights this summer. Inactivity can really destroy momentum in this sport. But a Morales vs Bradley fight would be a nice match-up. But by the way Morales's eye looked after the Maidana fight...Morales won't be ready for a while. How about Malignaggi at 147lbs?

meh, i don't think ortiz present too much problems against floyd. given he's the best of that weight class, ortiz will still most probably lose. still you really can't hate floyd for this fight. Yeah...I see Floyd winning it. But I think he's going to work for it. We saw in Ortiz last fight (First "Real-time" on the big stage)...Ortiz came to fight!!! Now on the biggest of stages against the biggest of names along with being a PPV fight. Ortiz is coming to FIGHT!!! But what I am hoping for is another GBP night of solid PPV fights. That Maidana vs Morales card was EXCELLENT!!!

I don't think if it was about trying to get a fight with Pacquiao... I think he turned down the final offer for the Khan fight after Pacquiao announced that he was fighting Marquez. To be honest, I kind of think it has something to do with him being unhappy with Gary Shaw... his contract with him is up pretty soon, so he may just be trying to run it out before taking any big fights. In regards to the four fights you suggested, I think Guzman is a dud, since he can't make weight, and has probably done himself a lot of harm in trying to get fair negotiations with credible fighters, as the chances of him coming in overweight and giving himself an unfair advantage have proven to be quite high. Alvarado is a very dangerous undefeated prospect (so I've heard, I don't think I've ever seen him fight), and probably wouldn't bring a lot of money, so I doubt he fights Bradley next. Garcia has two good wins over faded versions of Arnaoutis and Campbell, but as with Alvarado... dangerous prospect who doesn't bring a lot of cash to the table. Finally, Kotelnik is a very good fighter, although he's been on the shelf for quite a while. He doesn't bring a ton of cash, and Don King has a reputation of demanding options on a fighter, and I think that is the last thing Bradley wants tied to him at this point. . Good stuff man. However, you kept saying that none of the fighters on my list brings any money (or big money)...But If Bradley just turned down the best possible money-fight (aside from Pac/May) then maybe a big money fight is not his concern right now. May be it's all about staying busy?

Bingo. The Bradley situation reeks of Arum pulling strings behind the scenes. Still don't understand why he didn't take the Khan fight. Oh well...I hope he stays busy and takes a fight this summer.

How well he would do against Mayweather. Shane Mosley, Marquez, none of these opponents prepares him for Mayweather. Its been years and I still believe Pac has no chance vs Floyd. I still have yet to see anything that convinces me Pac can deal with Floyds speed, movement, and ring smarts. Ortiz is right now being described as fodder for Floyd but a good fight for Pacquiao, why?? Because Floyd is better than Paquiao and YOU know it! Good Stuff. I have been saying this for years!!! In fact, I believe that Pacquiao hasn't gotten better as a fighter. Simply because he hasn't fought anyone that has made him better. He's not a better Boxer, because he hasn't fought anyone that has tested his Boxing skills. He hasn't become a better counter-puncher becuase he hasn't fought anyone that has made him counter-punch. He hasn't fought anyone that has tested his defense or make him a better defensive fighter. Since moving up, "Team Pacquiao" has carefully selected fighters with a multitude of flaws and easy-2-hit fighters perfectly made for a high volume southpaw puncher with speed. Pacquiao and Roach said something in the Pre-fight interview prior to the Mosley Fight that summed up Pacquiao's Rise to stardom and the fighters they have chosen "not to fight" (I didn't want to use the word AVOIDED) since teaming together. Are you guys ready....you sure, here is goes: Both Roach and Pacquiao said: "SHANE MOSLEY WOULD BE THE FASTEST FIGHTER THEY HAVE FACED SINCE WORKING TOGETHER." WOW...does anyone have any Idea how big of a statement that is? A 40 year old, WAY PAST his prime fighter, who no longer has the ability to "pull-the-trigger"....IS THE FASTEST THEY HAVE EVER FACED...WOW!! That's just sad!!!

I was pretty damn disappointed when I heard the PTI fools saying Nicklaus's achievement of winning The Masters was more impressive than Hopkins beating Pascal, mostly because their description of Pascal was something to the effect of, well he has a title, so I guess he's okay or something. Although, I have no idea how you are okay with listening to Atlas. His voice is terrible, he's an idiot, and talks about pretty much everything except the match when he is supposed to be commentating on the Friday Night Fights fights. Plus, he is generally wrong about everything. I can't agree with you about Atlas though. I am well aware he says some stuff that comes from WAY OUT his ass, and at times can piss people off by what he says...but overall, he's very knowledgeable about the sport. And I also forgot about Brian Kenney.

I thought that two of the judges scorecard of 96-93 is just crazy...Neither fighter won that fight by 3 rounds/points. 95-94 was a perfect score for either fighter. And although I scored it 95-94 for Mathysse....this fight in no-way was a Robbery. People used the word "Robbery" so much...and most times it's only used when the fighter they DON'T LIKE wins...that doesn't make it a Robbery.

So, Manny Pacquiao (Team Pacquiao Actually) have NO problems in asking a long time 154lbs fighter (who aslo had one fight at 160lbs...Oscar De La Hoya) to come down to a weight he hasn't fought at since 2001 (147lbs), and then requesting two WW fighters (Mosley and Cotto) to come in under the the WW limit. Now they want Marquez to come up to 147lbs?

This kid was a VERY GOOD Amateur. Can't wait to see how his skill as a pro fighter.

I had Chambers winning with ONE ARM!!!

Any and everything attached with TR...has no credibility!!!

The only Mike Jones Pacquiao will fight is this Mutha'fuka:http://blog.ejams.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/mike-jones.jpg