Why sacrifice Ortiz this soon?

People have been demanding a JMM trilogy. Also, last time I checked JMM is coming off of a TKO win Your name explains it all really. Nothing you mentioned matters because it's not at an ideal weight class for it to be competitive.

He's ready, he proved he can take big shots and do damage, I belive we are looking at a great fight ahead of us.

There is NO shame in losing to Mayweather...At all!!! After this fight Ortiz will still be Top Name in the Sport (among young Stars/Talent). And beating guys like Alfonso Gomez, Selcuk Aydin will put him back in the mix for fight against a Mike Jones and other belt holders. This is by NO means sacrificing Ortiz. In fact this is GBP putting him on the "Big Stage". And if he performs well....then the sky is the limit. I don't know if I could put together a better string of fights that would attempt to restore Ortiz's image as a draw and as a relevant player in the division if/when he loses to Mayweather Jr. Gomez is a tough guy, but should be an easy night for Ortiz as a bounce back after a loss (see what Cotto did to him, I doubt a fight with Ortiz would be terribly different), then Aydin, a mid level guy still in or dealing with the remains of his prospect phase, meaning he is still pretty green, plus he's the WBC silver belt holder, which gives him some credibile in the minds of fans, and finally Mike Jones (who will probably have a belt as a result of fighting for the vacant WBC title that will be vacated when Ortiz loses and Mayweather Jr. refuses to pay the sanctioning fee for it). Well done!

There is NO shame in losing to Mayweather...At all!!! After this fight Ortiz will still be Top Name in the Sport (among young Stars/Talent). And beating guys like Alfonso Gomez, Selcuk Aydin will put him back in the mix for fight against a Mike Jones and other belt holders. This is by NO means sacrificing Ortiz. In fact this is GBP putting him on the "Big Stage". And if he performs well....then the sky is the limit.

Yes and Mr Ortiz who is 'I am too young to get beat like this' isn't exactly a great warrior. Don't even bring up Berto, Collazo was on his level which Hatton was on Collazo's level. A past prime Mosely beat Collazo with ease too. OK I will be serious~ 1) That was a very different sort of fight 2) Mayweather should beat him pretty badly but the physical damage should not be horrendous unless Floyd feels the need to punish him which is kind of dumb because it benefits Floyd more if Ortiz can have a solid career after. 3) Now there is the problem of the mental side and Ortiz even though he has did well in that regard against Berto you could raise questions about how he can stand up to what Floyd brings on that side of the game. That could break Ortiz especially if Floyd really wants it to but that is far from certain and Ortiz if he can hang could gain a huge boost.

It's all about money. But heck, Victor doesn't have a zero to protect so why not? No shame in losing to Mayweather and maximum kudos if he pulls off the win.

Yeah, I have an idea. $$$$$ ^^^ The answer is and always has been quite obvious. It's the same reason everyone fought Oscar, even if they weren't at a point in their career to give themselves the best shot at winning the fight. Is Ortiz really marketable? Seems like the only people that know Ortiz are boxing fans. The casuals don't have any idea who he is. I doubt the PPV goes over 1.2m buys Mexican-American fans are pretty reliable, hence mozzer's post saying that it has clocked in as HBO's highest rated show of the year (I think it's actually second now that Hopkins-Pascal happened). Plus, the casual fan does watch Mayweather and Pacquiao PPVs with their friends, and I guarantee you, it helps when people rant and rave about how badass Ortiz's last fight with Berto was, just like real boxing fans are going tell their friends about how awesome the first two fights between Pacquiao and Marquez were... both of those are going to help a lot in generating interest for the fight, and that will be reflected in the amount of PPV subscriptions sold. By the time they get done with 24/7, everyone will know who he is. 24/7 also does help a lot. Those who are interested in seeing Pacquiao and Mayweather Jr. tune in to at least one episode of 24/7, and HBO does a good job talking about the most marketable parts of the opponent in each episode, so you can bet that there is going to be plenty of footage of Ortiz exciting the crowd against Berto. No one is demanding that fight at 147. Once again Manny is giving us a fight that most really don't want to see. Mayweather this time is giving a fight that both casual and hardcore fans are interested in. It's not the optimal fight that people want to see... obviously everyone would prefer Pacquiao to fight Mayweather Jr., but honestly... Pacquiao does have some unfinished business with Marquez. Both fights were scored for Marquez by more than a few people, and if Pacquiao whips him into shape, then he will forever get rid of the notion that he was at or just above Marquez's level in his prime. This will be helped even more if Marquez beats another couple of good fighters afterwards. Most people have 0 chance of beating Floyd (VO has an ok shot) but he is getting paid millions to fight the best fighter on the Planet. Who wouldn't? Good to see you as always Skills. And again, as always, you are correct in your analysis. Why not? It's not like floyd lays these career ending beat downs on people, physically ortiz should be fine even if he gets dominated from pillar to post. Vic already came back from damn near oblivion once, I find it hard to believe anything floyd will do to him can be worse then quitting on his stool. His stock might even rise if he has a good showing. This is also true, and I'm sure his handlers and promoters have considered that even if he loses (and even if it's a pretty one-sided loss), it won't be a soul-taking beatdown, so everyone involved makes a boatload of cash, and he can continue to excite the crowds and be the draw that he was, is, and will continue to be. Yes and Mr Ortiz who is 'I am too young to get beat like this' isn't exactly a great warrior. Don't even bring up Berto, Collazo was on his level which Hatton was on Collazo's level. A past prime Mosely beat Collazo with ease too. Another stupid post from you... Are you telling me just because someone isn't great, you can't show that you are a warrior against them? That makes literally no sense. The rematch and rubber match of Gatti-Ward pretty clearly showed that Gatti was a level or two above Ward as a fighter (the third fight was only competitive because Gatti shattered one of his hands, limiting what he could do to keep Ward off him). However, in the first fight, I dare you to tell me that Gatti didn't show that he was one of the most courageous warriors we have had in the sport since the days of black and white television. Seriously, get your posting quality up or start posting at ESB, where everyone is on your level intellectually.

Is Ortiz really marketable? Seems like the only people that know Ortiz are boxing fans. The casuals don't have any idea who he is. I doubt the PPV goes over 1.2m buys 1.2 mil is definitely doable given Shane has probably a better known name. TO the TS, this is not a sacrifice. Ortiz has a shot. If Ortiz does well but still loses, he will STILL look good in the eye of the public. It's like, "Dude this guy gave Floyd some hard time and didn't look too bad." Ortiz loses big if he does very poorly.

this is a win win situation for Vic....I don't think GBP is sacraficing him...their expanding his name by putting it next ot Floyd's under the brightest lights in boxing....Vic is living the dream atm

I don't think they're sacrificing Ortiz, I actually think it's the other way around, Ortiz is getting huge exposure in a fight where he has more to win than lose. Why? Well first of all there's a lot of money involved. There's no other fight that will give Ortiz the amount of money he's going to get in this fight. Second, he can win. Yeah it is unlikely and if he wins it's going to be probably from a powerful punch. Third, it's going to be a great fight, Ortiz is going to go forward to try to win the fight, so it's not going to be a boring fight between 2 guys not trying to hit each other. And finally, lets imagine he loses, then what? He's still young and people would say "He lost against Floyd, every other boxer would have lost also" so the only way that Ortiz can actually "lose" is by doing the same thing he did with Maidana. If he loses by a legit TKO or KO, or by any decision then there's not so much of a consequence, he lost against the best, he'll recover.

What? First of all, Ortiz does have a shot at winning. Secondly, think of the exposure and payday. He'd be crazy not to jump on this opportunity. When you make a living fighting like these guys do, and you have a chance to have a fight with Pac or May, you better fukking take it. Money baby. Money.

Ortiz vs Berto had the highest ratings for HBO this year. Yeah I think he is markatable. Atleast floyd is not fighting washed up old ass fighters like Pac is! your by-line is way out of line of this thread....vic is "sacrificed" bcoz gbp, hbo and pbf need to do something lest they be overly sidelined by top rank and pac....also the term washed up old ass fighters are undeserved and only shows your ignorance on what is boxing...can you say such to bhop, george foreman, cotto, marg or jmm???

I don't think it's a sacrificial gesture as I can't recall Mayweather wrecking too many fighters -completely humiliate and defeat, sure, but seldom wreck ala Hopkins or a Trinidad. Anyway, let's be honest. Ortiz is going to be outclassed by Mayweather. But, based upon his performance vs Berto, he should put up a valiant effort in losing and make for a fan friendly, exciting effort. And he is still young enough to again rebound and enjoy a career (and future title shots) well into his late 20s and early 30s. If you have a crowd pleasing style, the fans will forgive a less than perfect record. Look at Gatti or Ward... Anyway, I would imagine that any true competitor would love to step into that squared circle with one of the best fighters of this generation, if only to find out just where they stand.

1. Its a ton of money 2. Losing does not=the end of your career. it can be an excellent learning experience. 3. Ortiz and his team might actually think he could win

It's really a win win for GBP and Ortiz if he gives a good performance and loses no shame and he's a household name especially with the way he fights and that's a big payday he's guaranteed it's something you don't pass on bcse he could just as easily lose to some lesser name and then what rebuild again all depending on him at least staying somewhat competitve with Floyd so if he gets outboxed so be it

Why not? It's not like floyd lays these career ending beat downs on people, physically ortiz should be fine even if he gets dominated from pillar to post. Vic already came back from damn near oblivion once, I find it hard to believe anything floyd will do to him can be worse then quitting on his stool. His stock might even rise if he has a good showing. Pac and floyd arent gonna be around forever, if u get a chance to cash in against one of them u take it, no questions asked. And what if ortiz lands a lucky punch? If older then dirt molsey can come off an 18 month lay off and catch floyd like that? Now u got floyd coming off a long ass lay off and he's 34 years old. Vic could hit the MEGA MILLIONS if he plays his cards right. People have been demanding a JMM trilogy. Also, last time I checked JMM is coming off of a TKO win Dude try and keep up. Pac WAS ducking marquez 3 months ago, but now that he signed to fight him jmm has gotten 3 months older, that makes him a washed up old bum that should be sweeping floors for change...

Most people have 0 chance of beating Floyd (VO has an ok shot) but he is getting paid millions to fight the best fighter on the Planet. Who wouldn't?

I think Ortiz will give a pretty good performance and wouldn't be shocked if he pulled the upset. I fully expect Mayweather to win however. GBP is striking while the iron is hot and Ortiz is as big right now as he has ever been. It is probably the biggest and best fight Mayweather could have taken, except for Pacquiao.

You cracked a smile on my face, but we all know Ortiz is gonna kill Mayweather. I think we all know that Victor Ortiz will just be too good on fight night. Mayweather has never faced someone like Ortiz; young, fast, powerful, explosive, prime, with good feet, and a twelve round gas tank. Gayweather won't know what hit him. This is Ortiz's time to shine, and he won't disappoint.:boxing: I'd love for ortiz to win but come on.. Mayweather is too slick for Ortiz. Ortiz will get countered all night. Mayweather is no Berto. Berto is an overrated bum thats one dimensional. Sorry bro..

Anyone know why Golden-boy is throwing Ortiz in with Mayweather this soon? The kid has 0% chance of winning.. You cracked a smile on my face, but we all know Ortiz is gonna kill Mayweather. I think we all know that Victor Ortiz will just be too good on fight night. Mayweather has never faced someone like Ortiz; young, fast, powerful, explosive, prime, with good feet, and a twelve round gas tank. Gayweather won't know what hit him. This is Ortiz's time to shine, and he won't disappoint.:boxing: