GGG is the best middleweight at least to me. Cotto however just made history, passed Tito Trinidad and proved masses wrong, myself included. But I'm not mad, truth is I'm happy for him because I've always been a fan, simply thought Martinez was a bad choice. Turned out to be the opposite.
The sad thing is Cotto is no where near the greatest fighter/fighters of this era/generation, but he's fought better fighters than both his betters. I feel that's a shame. He's fought better fighters than better fighters.
No where near? Ok tell me about your top 10 fighters of this era (2000-2014).
I ask because your statement may be a bit too strong. Again, it may be your opinion just want to know your reasoning.
fools jumping the bandwagon with ggg. lmao! Its easy to be a "winners" fan doe'.
A true fans hang around a boxer carreer, win or lose. When Miguels pushes gggs chit and stops him where you are going to go?
Even if ggg stops Cotto, Ill STILL be here, backing up the King with my head high fools. You guys are just bandwaggoners with no sense of loyalty.
Shame!
angulo was a tune up fight, but he did give lara all he could handle at one time. lara was the boogyman, and a guy everybody said canelo would duck.
ron salsa is the 70th ranked lightweight in the world. this is one of the biggest mismatches for a lineal title of all time.
canelo is a middleweight, and should be fighting there, but we cannot compare the opponents.
Bro,
Just stop swinging from Giftanelo's nuts like a leach hungry for semen.
Not comparing opponents but similarities. Its ok for Giftanelo to fight over the division to gain a clear advantage over his opponents and ll the GiftaneloTARDs approve, now Garcia does it (of which I don't approve) and the same people who approved of Giftanelo's doing cry and whine about it.
What's the logic? The double standards of NSB? :fing02:
I think Canelo might fight Kirkland though in December.
Lineal champ papa, stop hating. Tony is retired and to homie playing pirate with his drunk friends
You're right sir! My son was called out in his own building! That needs to be addressed. Really wanted the Canelo fight cuz it's a Puerto Rican Mexican scrap but now idk. GGG hits too hard. Damn man..... If Cotto fights him and wins he's the greatest! Lol
LMAO! rrrrrRRRRR!!!!!!
Green K!
Green K sent.
.......
Where is this CaneloPower? I'm still waiting to see it.
He left it at the gym on the heavy bag and on the Chepo pads! That's the only thing he can unload like that, and of course....the walking punching bag Angulo who took each and everyone of those "power punches".
His power is overrated.
They both brought the best out of each other and touched on each others weakness..i think i have watched this fight 100 times..damn good fight,
By far, my favorite fight.
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Fools in this thread are pathetic. Cotto has not ducked anyone. Dont be in disbelief when he announces the fight in Dec.
Mathed will be committing suicide after his idol Mathesse got exposed by Danny and when King Cotto pushes GGG chit and stops him!
even you as a unrealistic delusional cotto fan thinks ggg will beat cotto, lol, the problem is when you get butthurt when somebody gives a opinion that cotto has a bad chance in winning, lol, ricardo ****in torres ****in almost knocked your boy out, lol, nobody really wants to know who torres is, lol, if a nobody like torres can hurt cotto, a freak like ggg will put your boy to sleep in anybodies more realistic opinion, lol, trout still sukks and cotto lost to that piece of sh11t journeyman, lol, fact
Ricardo Torres who was 28-0 with 25 stoppages....with a much better record and KO% that anything that GGG has faced so far with a 89.3% KO percentage....that same Ricardo Torres? LMAO.
...by the way, it was Cotto's only 24th fight.
Gifttanelo just like to beat on little guys. Whay a lame fraud. Put him up with someone his size and he will chit a brick and have to get a gift decision.
Giftanelo, the epitome of a hype job.
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Just like Canelo. Why are people crying about it?
Canelo vs Angulo
Canelo vs Lara
...and dont forget came over weight during his trinklet fight and still WBC gave him the belt WTF?
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Yea yea, it's twitter, but interest hasn't been shown by other people for Rigondeaux for a long time. He says any time, any place. Rigo had a very short fight with no promoter.... LSC is most likely on the Floyd card....2+2=
We train 100% in the gym to give the fans great fights.We are ready to fight @RigoElChacal305 anytime any place @MTBOXINGTEAM #TeamSantaCruz— Leo Santa Cruz (@leosantacruz2) July 24, 2014
We aren***39;t afraid to fight anybody . I love all my fans , thank you for the support #TeamSantaCruz #MTboxing @MTBOXINGTEAM— Leo Santa Cruz (@leosantacruz2) July 24, 2014
Yes, Yes, YES!!!!!!
Gifttanelo just like to beat on little guys. Whay a lame fraud. Put him up with someone his size and he will chit a brick and have to get a gift decision.
Giftanelo, the epitome of a hype job.
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Margacheto plasterdildo lovers and azzteck wankers are trying to discredit the King and NEW LINEAR MW Champion of the World victory against Martinez.
You don't see Cotto fans posting worthless threads and talking chit all over the forum do you fuktards?
GTFOH with that BS. Go back to your caves cucarachas!
.......and the NEW!!!!
Wake up that morning?
:boxing:
Seriously,
Tito was too quick, too strong and too much power for Vargas. That was all. You could not brawl with Tito like that, ATG power on both hands and he could also box.
Fail + fail = Brutal KO
And by the way, no way can Cotto be beaten under Roach according to his supporters.
Cotto can now travel back in time and destroy every fighter whoever lived in a few hours, then travel back to the present just in time for some Bistec Encebollado.
lol!!! :beerchug:
Unfortunately, Lara will box Canelos ass off, win 8-4 and get robbed on the official cards.
He (Lara) will get a KD as well and STILL lose the card!!!
Fraudanelo will win not matter what if it goes to the cards. The ONLY way Lara wins is via KO.
His knee was not 100% for the Chaves Jr, Barker, Murray fight and managed to win and look good.
These guys that love looking for excuse will troll on anything.
GREAT Point!
You just hit the jackpot! DING DING DING we have a winner!
/ENDTHREAD
I think that it will be a real scrap and to beat Cotto you'll have to bring your A-Z plans.
Dont be surprised if Miguel wins a decision, but I believe that GGG takes the fight but will have to really earn it.
""He was never fully recovered from the knee surgery," said DiBella, noting that the injury made it very hard for Martinez to plant his feet. "The knee was OK early in the training camp but it wasn't perfect. But with three weeks left in camp, it got much worse. He probably would have postponed the fight if was in a normal arena. He was damaged goods going in against Murray.""
He had another 2 surgeries during the 14 month period before the Cotto fight. At 40 years old.
Just for reference NBA players play like **** after any sort of serious injury.
The difference is boxers are being punched by another person and dont have benchtime to rest.
The guy was a cripple by the time he was in the ring with Cotto. Get over it nobody with a brain thinks Cotto beat Martinez at even 50%.
http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/meniscus-tear-symptoms
Symptons of a "none" serious injury
You may not be able to straighten your knee
The knee can also feel "wobbly" or unstable,
or give way without warning.
especially torn ligaments, you may have increased pain, swelling, a feeling that the knee is unstable, and difficulty walking.
Pretty much saw all of that during the fight.
An example of the knee giving way far too easily would be knockdowns 2 & 3.
Sergio didn't even look dazed like somebody who got knocked half way across the ring should look.
http://ri ngtv.craveonline.com/news/338259-sergio-martinez-i-feared-i-would-never-walk-again
Seriously stop, you guys are just Puerto Rican nut huggers. Nothing you guys say can be taken seriously because you have a built in bias.
Quotes from a forum of people with the same injury and recovered.
"I just tore it a few months ago in bjj and I think I am going to have get the surgery.. Everytime I go back and train and take a shot it like locks/catches and I literally cant move it at all and it hurts alot for about a minute until it resets"
"I've been in the same situation as you. Tore my meniscus playing basketball and didn't require surgery. I came back to playing basketball again 8 months after the injury and my knee swelled up after just one game"
"Did it constantly lock and just jam up when you made certain movements... I know for me its perfectly fine when I do certain things but whenever I grapple and take a shot it locks every single time"
http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f11/training-meniscus-tear-1502707/
Here :bottle: :bottle: :bottle:
The truth:
Originally Posted by BucaRican View Post
His knee was not 100% for the Chaves Jr, Barker, Murray fight and managed to win and look good.
These guys that love looking for excuse will troll on anything.
Please stop with the denial. Please do your self a favor and stop embarrassing yourself.
...and the NEW!
I'm not saying it's false or can't happen but I think Canelo is too much of a professional and takes the craft way too serious to be another Chavez Jr
No, no, no. Far from it. You got a dude who goes beating on dudes on the street for little stuff? That's not professional. Who beat that other little Mexican dude just for talking to this girl, he is used to fighting little guys the reason behind him fighting 40 lightweights who were overly inflated, old dudes and taco vendors all the way to his JrMW and now his new "MW" catchweight.
I dont understand how people follow this guy.
15 pounds in a little over a week sounds about right. He got a lot of running in the aluminum foil suit to do. These idiots killing their bodies just for an advantage smh http://i.imgur.com/iAwvzov.png
That is plain and simple: The Truth
Did you Canelo fans watched ESPN "A Los Golpes" last night?
They (and the crew/staff is Mexican) were not happy with his performance and out of the 4, only one gave the fight to Canelo (115/113) but also stated that it could have gone either way.
The most critical yet, very objective was Chavez Sr. who stated that Canelo did not show any improvement since the FMJr. fight.
Sr. also stated that in a Cotto vs Canelo showdown, Cotto would clearly defeat Canelo.
Chavez Jr. was there as well, and said that he will come and meet Canelo at 160lb.
The commentary was very unbiased and touched some very interesting points.
You, Canelo fans should find it and watch it.
Of course he did, there ain't no sugarcoating it. Even Malignaggi weighed in on how much of it was boxing/ running. Brian Kenny was straight about it and called it running. All that wasn't solely Canelo's inability to cut him off as some would like to believe.
Paulie also had Lara winning the fight by a point, but what does he know
LMAO! The doctor just got owned.
Giftanelo all it did was apply invective pressure and landed jack. Lara was making him miss by miles, outboxing him and landing straight lefts like laser beams.
His first title was at a CW and he still came in overweight how'd he still get the title he should thank the wbc. ATG= Josesito lopez, Ryan Rhodes, Matthew Hatton, Jose Cotto, Trout with open scoring (115-113 Trout imo), Angulo coming off a quitting loss and until recently 1 legit fighter Laras. Atg for sure :rofl::rofl: the hype is back. Let's not forget the slick, fast footed, steel chin 6 dimensional Kirkland coming up.
Truth right here keeping people honest.
There is nothing else to say. Giftanelo continues to be a hyperjob at its finest. ATG Hyperjob that is!