From a technical standpoint, what caused Vargas to lose in the fashion that he did?
What went wrong for the then 22-year-old 154 lb champion?
Post, discuss, and elaborate.
He fought with his ego, his pride, and his "tough guy" persona.
If he prepared properly and fight intelligently, he could have won.
Punchers eat tough guys like their first meal after being released from jail. And that's precisely what Tito did -- he Earth'd that nigga.
Tito was faster, stronger and more ruthless/dirty.
Vargas just flat footed, over rated, decent fighter none da less.
Tito basically destroyed Vargas's career, just like David Reid......... Tito was destroyer of boxers careers....
......what a fight!!!
I noticed that too. Re-watched yesterday and noticed precisely that. Then when Vargas got super aggressive at the end of round 9, he took A LOT of damage.
George Foreman even said,
"It's getting rough for Vargas."
Very true.
People have bad memories or don't know what they are talking about.
it is clear that vargas wasn't really going to war with tito in rounds 6 to 8, but Trinidad was getting to him with hard shots anyway.
And as you said in round 9, he took a beating when he got aggressive in round 9.
From a technical standpoint, what caused Vargas to lose in the fashion that he did?
What went wrong for the then 22-year-old 154 lb champion?
Post, discuss, and elaborate.
He went toe toe instead of boxing. He could have beat Tito easy.
Anyone else notice how Trinidad didn't get tired at all? I mean, he was throwing haymakers in volume for 12 f*ckin rounds!! I suspect heavy usage of EPO.
I think Vargas joined the PED party a little late though. Around the De La Hoya fight is where it appears Vargas started juicing. Just look at homeboy's body. Compare from 2000 to 2002. The 2000s was the PED era. Just look at baseball. Sadly, it was a little late by then - he already been brutally KO'd.
Fernando in 2000
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0612/box_mex_puertorico_09.jpg
Him in 2002
http://www.netbrawl.com/uploads/d2b3c054e5635ea529379ac9e66afaf1.jpg
The difference is abundantly discernible. After his loss, he found rejuvenation in PEDs. He was juicing too much though cause he failed the test lol.
Anyway here's what Vargas had to say about that fight 14 years later.
Oh Lord, here we go again.
Just in case you didn't know, Tito ran every marathon he could even during training. It was his thing to show up at every race they did in PR just for fun....and training obviously. Epo, lmao!
Trinidad was just better. More powerful, more experienced.
Vargas was boxing well, he dropped Tito in round 4 and was outboxing him, but Tito got to him.
Vargas wasn't really trying to war with Tito in rounds 6, 7, and 8, but he was still getting hit with hard shots.
I noticed that too. Re-watched yesterday and noticed precisely that. Then when Vargas got super aggressive at the end of round 9, he took A LOT of damage.
George Foreman even said,
"It's getting rough for Vargas."
He tried to mix it up too much with Tito. Oscar played it smart, but got a lot of heat for fighting Mayweather style. Vargas would rather go out KO'd vs Tito in a Mexico vs Puerto Rico showdown than fight the way Oscar did. So he got KTFO.
Oscar lost too. It wasn't a case of Vargas trying to mix it up with Tito, he had no choice. Tito was at the peak of his powers and was absolutely relentless. He almost always got stronger as the fight progressed yet his power made him dangerous even early. Oscar was able to box Tito for a longer period than Vargas because, well, he's a better boxer than Vargas. But Tito got to him as well and while Vargas fought back, Oscar ran.
I still feel winky did enough to win that fight, at no point was Vargas in complete control of that fight, in the championship rounds maybe winky could have pressed more to make his case but i just dont think he lost.
I haven't seen that fight in eons. I remember Vargas' body looking like he had a lackluster camp but managing to hang in there and then eking it out of the last couple rounds. Maybe Winky won. A lot of people whose opinion I respect feel he did so I might need to watch again.
Trinidad was just better. More powerful, more experienced.
Vargas was boxing well, he dropped Tito in round 4 and was outboxing him, but Tito got to him.
Vargas wasn't really trying to war with Tito in rounds 6, 7, and 8, but he was still getting hit with hard shots.
that puto tito had wraps worse than any cheat out there
vargas will kill him in a street fight anyway
Angry much..lol:bottle:
Ask Naazim about the wraps...get the flag out your ass:drillserg
This is personally one of my all time favorite fights. But in truth, Fernando chose to stand in front of Tito and trade and the end result was a recipe for disaster.
Couple this with the fact I think he underestimated Trinidad in coming up in weight thinking he could bully Tito into submission only for Fernando to be beaten into oblivion.
From a technical standpoint, what caused Vargas to lose in the fashion that he did?
What went wrong for the then 22-year-old 154 lb champion?
Post, discuss, and elaborate.
Basically his chin was not good enough to compensate for his lack of defense. A flat footed fighter without head movement is going to get hit. Also age was a big factor. Vargas was 22 (I think) going against an outstanding HOF fighter in his prime at age 27.
even towards the end of the dlh fight after he got knocked down and dlh had him against the ropes, vargas somehow slipped all those shots...then he stumbled to the other corner and dlh unloaded but I always found that impressive.
He was trained well.
As for what the other poster said I agree. Someone forgot to tell Vargas that he's not the puncher in this fight.
He should have strictly stuck to boxing.
He tried to mix it up too much with Tito. Oscar played it smart, but got a lot of heat for fighting Mayweather style. Vargas would rather go out KO'd vs Tito in a Mexico vs Puerto Rico showdown than fight the way Oscar did. So he got KTFO.