I think he was walking to the ring with broner and rapping "young *****z but we live tho!!!" Look at the dude to the right of broner with the silly fur hat on. Look at the picture they show of the young twins. Looks like a 15 years older version of broners twin brother in the picture. He kind of has a lil boosie thing going on.
Why couldn't he just keep busy with Quintana? He has such an easy time with Quintana in the rematch.
Or why couldn't he just have a keep busy fight with his mandatory Jennings? Or was Jennings too much of a risk to be a Keep busy fight?
I understand not trying to keep busy with Pavlik. But, to chose Kolle over Jennings? Unless Williams had trouble making 147 and didn't feel comfortable making it anymore. But, the Kolle fight was just absurd...
you're kidding, right? jennings aint a risk to any one. lol
He should of fought Quintana a third time instead of Kolle
Hell he should of fough his mandatory in Jennings instead of Kolle...
He really should of fought Pavlik instead of Kolle.
Fighting Kolle to me was a head scratcher. I just didn't get that move at all...
actually, jennings ducked williams and declined his mandatory shot against williams. Thats one of the reasons Skinny Pun just dropped his belt and moved up. Seriously, when your no-name mandos are ducking you, you might want to look in to other options. Which is what they did. BTW the next challenger in line after jennings was cotto, and cotto declined the offer to fight williams for the title as well. Hence why cotto and jennings ended up fighting each other when williams vacated.
Froch landed much bigger punches than Kessler even though Kess was more consistent............Kess was never hurt or even really discouraged.
The first big right hand Kess landed in the 8th hurt Froch...Froch's now been hurt in 3 fights in a row.
And Kess doesn't really get hurt.
i thought the very same thing. its got to be a concern to froch fans. boooooy kessler let froch off the hook in that round. did a jermaine taylor(looking to counter punch when your opponent is hurt in front of you).
says who?..........has pwill beaten atgs ?.....
has calzaghe?
seriously wins over a faded no stamina having ass Hopkins and a shot RJJ dont count as win over atgs. only in name not in reality.
When did he become undisputed?
If Martinez beats Pavlik, Martinez will be the undisputed middleweight champion due to the championship lineage created by Hopkins. I might be wrong, but Hopkins got the Ring belt when he beat Tito. Hopkins had all four belts and the Ring Title. No doube he was the undisputed middleweight champ. Then comes Jermaine Taylor. He beat Hopkins twice and took his claim. Pavlik then beat Taylor. Get it?
NOPE.. if Quintana can beat Williams at 147.. and Williams can almost give it away to Margarito at 147.. Mayweather positively outclasses Williams at 147.. it's not even close..
yuh cuz triangle theories always work. he bullshit through training with quintana and margarito wears plaster in his gloves.
Yo bully, Thats cuz cotto fans discredit so much so they can believe that pwill is not even a worthy opponent. In the back of their heads, they know cotto can not overcome the monster that beat the only man to beat cotto. besides cotto is too small. He does not have a high threshold for pain as pwill does. When the going gets tough do we really know if Cotto can take his game another level. He showed against torres and mosley, but he failed against Marg. I understand Marg is cheater, but Pwill had to endure the same thing cotto could not. Thats all I gotta say.
Williams was what? 163 or 164 for his last two fights at WW? Hasn't fought at WW in almost a year and I'm guessing will be packing on a bit of muscle so he can hang with Winky. His WW days are over.
And since his huggers aren't responding. It's weight classes, not height classes, you dumb mofos. LOL.
williams waled into the ring for the quintana rematch at 154.
Exactly, they think he will just let Williams tees off on him till het gets KOd.
Co sign
If Williams can keep Cotto at a distance the whole fight hell win a UD or Late KO. But if Cotto gets to the inside, hell destroy Williams with bodyshots.
Williams is easy to hit!!!!!!!!
Lets see if he can handle a real heavy handed puncher!!!!!
give it up, bitch. You still got Pul's name in your mouth. You are on almost every PW thread spewing the same shit. The Quintana fight was in the pst. Look at the head movement he was giving Winky. Paul has never displayed that kid of movement before. His footwork and head movement bothered Winky as much as the workrate. Cotto woul find it a lot harder to hit Williams that you anticipate. So what if Williams get caught clean at times when he has a good set of whiskers to back him up, unlike Cotto who has shown to be chinny at times(although it did hold up in the Mosley fight). I aint even touch on the stamina. Paul would make Cotto work all 12 rounds and every minute of that round. Cotto is a 10 round fighter, and if the fight reaches the ninth round then Willims takes over cuz Cotto will be gassed like never before. And if Cotto thought it was hard pushing Margarito back, he just a hard time pushing Williams back. :alucard:
What Part of he could of fought Quintana, Collazo or Clottey dont you guys understand.
There people willing to fight him, he just wanted the big dogs, right away, and all those guys had bigger fishes to fry. hell he didnt wanted Margarito or a rematch, but as soon as margo beat Cotto, he was all over his nuts trying to fight hm. Why Williams doesnt he wants to fight Margo when he comes back, if he wanted him so badly.
You need to build your resume up first, you just cant start talking shit and claiming you been feared, when you have done nothing.
Williams needs to stay in a fukking weight and start beating contenders and stuff, he needs to stop jumping from weight class to weight class, beating the Andy Kolles of the world and then start demanding shit!!
he is fighting the middleweight champion of the world? whats your point? if you are so confident williams gets his ass beat, then stfu and wait until after the fight before talking about how overrated williams is. kinda hard trying to get one successful title defense in when your mandatory(michael jennings) refuses to fight you and then the next available higest contender(cotto) wont fight you either. when you even got the jennings of the world ducking you, that has to tell you something. clottey fight is not something hbo was interested until now nor was a collazo fight. btw collazo and williams are homeboys and want to fight eachother but not for peanuts. Why are you still crying about a quintana-williams 3 when quintana hasnt been on tv since that fight while canceling espn dates for various reasons. quintana aint ready for a third fight now. if williams beat him again you will say that quintana was inactive. why all the hate? you try too hard and you mad. why you mad?
I like to see him this eager to fight anyone if big men like Roy Jones or Hopkins were in their prime. He's a big dude with a very long reach advantage. I like to see him fight Dawson if he gets by Pavlik.
wow nothing is good enough for you guys. smh. you want him to jump up 2 weight divisions right away. ask marquez how the worked out for him.
**** kessler, to be honest it was all euro judges and refs in the first two fights. kessler shouldnt have traveled then. besdies kess aint a dirty fighter, he should be ok.
This shiet redicolous he needs to fight someone his own size by that i meant his own height- stop picking on this short dudes makes you look bad.
so you admit that cotto would get mollywopped by williams?
the same Bob Arum that didnt give a shit about Margarito until he lost to Williams thus taking away one of Bob's bargaining chips at 147?
the same Bob Arum that didn't even promote his two biggest fights prior to 08in Cintron I (Main Events) and PWill (Goossen Tutor)?
the same Arum who buried his champ in undercards and local fights?
yuh that Arum. Look I know Margarito wasnt his prized possesion for a very long time, but dont act like Margarito hasnt benefitted from the relationship with old man Bob.
you have no clue do you?
tell me then since you know more than I do obviously what benefits did Tony have say prior to this year?
write them out to me.
ok asshole, Arum got him a Cotto fight last year, and Margarito didnt listen to Grandpa Arum and fucked that up for a year. I'm sure Arum was dissapointed in his fighter for disobeying him. Arum also offered Floyd 8 mil. Thats called trying to hook his fighter up there. Mayweather said no but thats not Arum or Marg;s fault. So thats two instances. You gotta take the whole relationship into consideration. This year counts, too. Most of all, Margarito is the number 1 welter in the world because of his relationship with Arum. All those local and club fights and what not led up to July 26th. If it wasnt for Arum, there would be no such thing as the July 26th we just had. You got anything else smart to say? I could give two shits if Arum butt raped Margarito and extorted him for years. Margarito ultimately won out due to his relationship with Arum. Let me also give credit to Margarito for coming through as well.
^^^ I dont get ferocity sometimes. Honestly he knows williams would win the rematch, and he is scared. Ferocity does not want this fight to happen. He could care less if Tony fought five bums we never heard of in a row.
yeah, cuz the other guys ducekd him in the past.
Arum doesnt hate paul, thats stupid..
MArgarito will fight PAull.. Im pretty confident of it.
exactly, everybody and they moms except for the punisher and clottey ducked Margarito. He is lucky to be signed with Arum. Arum is where you want to be if you are a major player in the welterweight division.
I know Bob doesnt hate Paul. Hate was a too strong of a word, but you dont think Bob resents Williams for fucking up the Cotto- Margarito fight the first time? Eventhough it wasd a solver lining in his dark cloud Cotto became bigger, Marg got another title, and the fight was bigger than it would have been last year. BTW, Arum is black balling Williams. None of his fighters are calling out Williams. Not a one.
I hope the fight does come off. To make the rematch bigger and maybe a PPV event, Arum and Goosen should stage a double header WCB event in Vegas or at the Home Depot Tennis Courts in LA(where the first fight was held). Marg vs Judah or somebody better and Williams vs Cintron, Collazo, or his Michael Jennings(the mandatory). I'm sure HBO would be all for it. Ferocity and all the Margoidiots can enjoy the reign a little bit longer and the everybody else will be happy that the rematch will happen if both fighters win.
Hey Fercotiy, reply to my post, ho ass. Ferocity has no regard for my posts because I stay owning him. BTW Ferocity, Margarito is lucky as hell that he has Bob Arum on his side that will get him fights with top fighters that are with Top Rank. Williams does not have that luxury and life is harder when Arum black balls him. Oh but wait a minute, Arum wants Williams to fight Arum's Middleweight champion of the world. Arum hates Paul. I dont know why. Probably wished he owned him too. At least Dibella has Berto and Quintana. Goosen only has Paul. Goosen is ok but he aint as big time as Arum and Dibella.
Of Course i do just not now. Margarito deserves a big payday. And the Delahoya or Floyd fight are near.
Williams has done nothing since beating Margarito. Margarito has remained undefeated and picked up two World Titles. While Williams picked up a lose.
Margarito doesn't owe Wililams anything. Margarito for all the bullshit he used to get and still gets. I hope he gets that Delahoya fight. Or Floyd mans up and fights Margarito. If anyone deserves a payday its Margaito.
Goosen ain't a stupid man. He knows who he has to contact to get at Margarito.
As for now, Williams still doesn't have a fight schedule as he should, remember people used to say, "Margarito shouldn't wait on Mayweather" now its "Williams shouldn't wait on Margarito."
Margarito doing big things.
LOL LOL LOL LOL you swear!!! You are delusional. Newsflash, Margarito will never ever ever ever EVER ever get a fight with DLH or Money. You must be out you god damn mind. You know better too. These two aint touching Tony with a 10 foot pole. So is Tony still going to wait for these two? is that what you want, fanboy? Yuh, let him wait on a retired fighter and another one that is going to retire after fighting a lightweight. Cotto still has a better chance than Margarito to get fights wtih the two big money makers.
The welterweights need to show that the division doesnt need mayweather or oscar by doing their own thing. Williams and Margarito are the top dogs now. They need to make their own legacy. If anything, you should be crying for Margarito to get a fight with Mosley at least he still active.
asshole? I can't help it if you are dumb when it comes to boxing so you calling me a name for your own indiocy is funny
as for the first Cotto fight you do know about the options behind the contract right? Of course not you are just talking out your ass in making out there statements to back your claim. I heard 3 but someone on here said 5.
and honestly, HONESTLY, that offer Arum gave Mayweather wasn't going to get Mayweather to bite. Tony knew it, Tony's people knew it, Bob knew it yet supposed fans like you take it as if the contracts were signed.
why should it when for the all the back years Arum didn't treat him with any regard. In fact, do you know who Fernando Beltran is? Look it up and get back to me.
he is considered the best if not one of the best welters in the world but that has more to do with the work he and his team did instead of Arum. Tell me what Arum did? especially in comparison to the fighters he had at the time? if he had took care of Tony the way he did JLC Morales heck even Chavez Jr then Tony would have already had the status he has now instead of waiting until 2008 to finally get it all.
I called you an asshole cuz you are acting like one. Plus I cant smack some sense into you over a message board. You dont know that Margarito would enjoy the same status now that he did back in the day when no one else was willing to fight him. Thats stupid. Everything that led up to July 26th happened for a reason. If it wasnt for those experiences maybe Marg would be journeyman fighter for all we know. If it wasnt for Arum, Margarito would have never fought Cotto. So thats why I am right. I aint saying you are wrong. You are just ebing a blind Arum hater. No Arum No Cotto fight.
He didn't break any fighters to pieces. The only fighter he tko'd was Morales.
Pacquiao fought like shit against Barrera, we knew Barrera was going to box but we didn't know Pacquiao was just going to wait on Barera all night long. Pacquiao for some reason knew not to rush in on old Barrera even though he beat him once, now thats funny.
Pac still can't crack Marquez so what you talking about nutty?
man, you try to hard. I hope to see you around here after margarito gets his liver handed to him. ciao!
Only if Jones wins.
If Jones wins, Calzaghe is an overrated bum from Wales and it does nothing for Jones' career, ageed?
who the hell is that bum in your signature? god damn, what a bum! Calzaghe has always been an overrated fighter but he aint a bum. Its an accomplishment to be the underdog and give the favorite his first loss, even if its sven ottke.
The point of this whole thread is that Paul Williams has more heart than Joshua Clottey(Clottey is one tough customer tho) and about the same or more heart than Margarito(Margarito is a bad ass). If Margarito fans got anythign to say about that just watch the 12th round of their fight.
But they have ShoBox where you can watch the prospects fight other good prospects if you don't like lesbians and shows about a MILF that peddles weed.
ShoBox is great.
dont forget the program about the serial killer that kills serial killers. Showtime definitely pushes the envelope. HBO shows have been bad recently. I dont watch the Wire but that was the last quality show they had. Entourage can eat a dick sandwich.
Shobox is cool but the commentators make me drowsy.