Joan Guzman v. Manny Pacquiao

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Cherry picking is calling yourself a champ when you beat the weakest titleist in the division. Then racing off to the next division. No one is dissing Hatton or Oscar (although one is clearly on the down side of his career and the other has done jack sh*t in six years). What we're saying is that he should NOT move up until he fights the REAL champs in the division. And the fans shouldn't let him off the hook!! Would you rather have seen Floyd fight Oscar/Hatton or Cotto/Margarito? Sometimes the toughest challenges lie directly in your division. I still remember the WBA officials snickering during the hearings for Roy Jones WBA HW title. They all laughed at "In the event Roy Jones should lose to Antonio Tarver..." After all, he had just battered Ruiz. That's what cherry picking is. You fight the weakest champ in the division and then get out ASAP. As for Valero or Soto...I'll take Soto but after watching Joan Guzman beat him pretty good, it's safe to say the real challenge is the winner of Guzman-Campbell. How about we discuss that? Wrongo! That's a whack defination of "cherry picking". Pac didn't just beat Diaz... HE SYSTEMATICALLY DESTROYED HIM.

1 question if pac (pbf) defeats guzman (cotto)will the haters stop hating? NO so what's the point. if pac (pbf) defeat guzman (cotto) they would say guzman (cotto) is over rated. Funny how these arguments were not appreciated when made about the people in bold

Cherry picking is calling yourself a champ when you beat the weakest titleist in the division. Then racing off to the next division. No one is dissing Hatton or Oscar (although one is clearly on the down side of his career and the other has done jack sh*t in six years). What we're saying is that he should NOT move up until he fights the REAL champs in the division. And the fans shouldn't let him off the hook!! Would you rather have seen Floyd fight Oscar/Hatton or Cotto/Margarito? Sometimes the toughest challenges lie directly in your division. I still remember the WBA officials snickering during the hearings for Roy Jones WBA HW title. They all laughed at "In the event Roy Jones should lose to Antonio Tarver..." After all, he had just battered Ruiz. That's what cherry picking is. You fight the weakest champ in the division and then get out ASAP. As for Valero or Soto...I'll take Soto but after watching Joan Guzman beat him pretty good, it's safe to say the real challenge is the winner of Guzman-Campbell. How about we discuss that? i thought... http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif

hatton sucks........he sucks....manny would ko him(because arum will make sure the only thing hatton knows how to do-WRESTLE-wont be allowed, correctly so i might add....but if this had been implemented in all of hattons fights, then hatton would have been lucky to get a title). I don't have problem with Pacquiao fighting Ricky Hatton. Cause i think Hatton would hurt Pacquiao bad. Pacquiao don't like a rough fight, Hatton will give him just that. you fcukin schizophrenic homo you just contradicted your earlier post about hatton.

F*ck you mean to say fighting Hatton and Dela Hoya are easy fights? from what I understand about cherry-picking is looking for an easy fights I hope Im wrong.. Then tell me whose the real challenge right now for PAC? is it valero or Soto? from what I understand to your comment Hatton and Dela Hoya are not real challenges for Pac... Cherry picking is calling yourself a champ when you beat the weakest titleist in the division. Then racing off to the next division. No one is dissing Hatton or Oscar (although one is clearly on the down side of his career and the other has done jack sh*t in six years). What we're saying is that he should NOT move up until he fights the REAL champs in the division. And the fans shouldn't let him off the hook!! Would you rather have seen Floyd fight Oscar/Hatton or Cotto/Margarito? Sometimes the toughest challenges lie directly in your division. I still remember the WBA officials snickering during the hearings for Roy Jones WBA HW title. They all laughed at "In the event Roy Jones should lose to Antonio Tarver..." After all, he had just battered Ruiz. That's what cherry picking is. You fight the weakest champ in the division and then get out ASAP. As for Valero or Soto...I'll take Soto but after watching Joan Guzman beat him pretty good, it's safe to say the real challenge is the winner of Guzman-Campbell. How about we discuss that?

Dont remind them pareng miron pahiram ng points kahit 3k lang

Hatton would eat right hook, right uppercut, and a couple of straight left hands first before he wrap his hands around Pac. Not a lot of people know this but Lazcano used to be Pac's bitch in sparring. Dont remind them

I don't have problem with Pacquiao fighting Ricky Hatton. Cause i think Hatton would hurt Pacquiao bad. Pacquiao don't like a rough fight, Hatton will give him just that. Hatton would eat right hook, right uppercut, and a couple of straight left hands first before he wrap his hands around Pac. Not a lot of people know this but Lazcano used to be Pac's bitch in sparring.

I don't have problem with Pacquiao fighting Ricky Hatton. Cause i think Hatton would hurt Pacquiao bad. Pacquiao don't like a rough fight, Hatton will give him just that. you only like the hatton fight because you know he would hurt pac bad? that is some severe pac hate my friend. lol

well hopefully the fight does happen. i just want manny to fight ricky , juan manuel and juan diaz. those are the 3 fights i really want to see. joan , nate and joel are good as well and i wouldn't mind. as far as soto and valero , i wouldn't mind either for november since everyone else is tied up in their own fights. i'd much rather see soto than valero though because i feel valero hasn't really earned it. soto deserves a payday more. I don't have problem with Pacquiao fighting Ricky Hatton. Cause i think Hatton would hurt Pacquiao bad. Pacquiao don't like a rough fight, Hatton will give him just that.

Why is it you only cheer for one pinoy? Don't you have other pinoy boxers to root for? Im just being sarcastic of course you don't have any other pinoy boxers to cheer for, cheer on. so what if we only cheer 1 pinoy then why are trolling on 1 pinoy? Oh I get it cause you dont have what we have the 1 pinoy that we proud of..

I heard Arum say that th fans of both margarito and cotto are being neutral and im thinking at boxing scene not so much shit talking is going on that he must be a poster here at boxingscene. And im still sure of that. People didn't think much of marquez selling poiwer, the pacquiqo fight proved them wrong. Guzman v. Campbell make it happen. well hopefully the fight does happen. i just want manny to fight ricky , juan manuel and juan diaz. those are the 3 fights i really want to see. joan , nate and joel are good as well and i wouldn't mind. as far as soto and valero , i wouldn't mind either for november since everyone else is tied up in their own fights. i'd much rather see soto than valero though because i feel valero hasn't really earned it. soto deserves a payday more.

bob arum doesn't give a rat's ass what we'd want to see. he only cares what people will buy. us boxing fans are not his target audience. his target is joe blow of the street that only buys boxing ppv once in a while. even if every single person in this forum wanted to see a guzman-pacquiao fight......if uncle bob feels a 4th erik fight will sell more he'll give us that. promoters don't give a shit about what fans think. what they care about is the most money...... I heard Arum say that th fans of both margarito and cotto are being neutral and im thinking at boxing scene not so much shit talking is going on that he must be a poster here at boxingscene. And im still sure of that. People didn't think much of marquez selling poiwer, the pacquiqo fight proved them wrong. Guzman v. Pacquiao make it happen. ------------------ Makedamnsure, lol, you're delusional. ------------------- bobby lee, i've said it before if pac beats soto to me he's earned my respect even more, should've been at 130 but he still gets credit from me if he steps up to soto

1 question if pac defeats guzman will the haters stop hating? NO so what's the point. if pac defeat guzman they would say guzman is over rated. that would be funny though. edwin , joan , juan ma all jumping to 135. nate , juan , joel , michael all taking fights to set themselves up as the next opponent for manny...... then manny fights oscar for $15 mil. and ricky for $10 mil. and takes his $25 mil. and retire. man......all the guzman , marquez , casa , campbell , diaz fans and boof for valero will have a cow!!!

Memo to Bob Arum! People actually care about Joan Guzman! So Pacquiao v. Guzman make it happen. bob arum doesn't give a rat's ass what we'd want to see. he only cares what people will buy. us boxing fans are not his target audience. his target is joe blow of the street that only buys boxing ppv once in a while. even if every single person in this forum wanted to see a guzman-pacquiao fight......if uncle bob feels a 4th erik fight will sell more he'll give us that. promoters don't give a shit about what fans think. what they care about is the most money......

Who the Fuck is old? Pacquiao already wipe-out the Mexicans at 130 and some of the mexicans don't even have hope for Soto to win.. LMAO What happens when Pac beats him? Antillon? LMAO! LOSER IS ALWAYS A LOSER.. Whining and Crying is they hobbies here. Why is it you only cheer for one pinoy? Don't you have other pinoy boxers to root for? Im just being sarcastic of course you don't have any other pinoy boxers to cheer for, cheer on.

Memo to Bob Arum! People actually care about Joan Guzman! So Pacquiao v. Guzman make it happen.

man, you try to hard. I hope to see you around here after margarito gets his liver handed to him. ciao! lol, marg tko cotto inside 10

Yeah. So can we please stop talking about what he's gonna do at 140 or 147? Geezus Christ. That's exactly what cherry-picking is; listening to some pseudo boxing fan tell me how Pacquiao has won titles in four divisions and yada, yada. He beat the most mediocre champ in the division. How about he fight someone else (a little better, perhaps? Or am I asking for too much?) at 135 before we begin fantasizing about him fighting elsewhere? Floyd does sh*t like that and they say he's ducking the real challenges. Pacquiao does it? He's daring to be great. a mediocre champ but still a champ nonetheless. the only fight outside 135 i'm interested in is the hatton one. i'd like to see him fight casa/guzman and casa/juanma winner as well. people always want to talk about this fight or that. that's what the forum is for. if you want to blame anyone then blame the promoters and managers. they're the ones that hype up future fights and pick the fights.