someone as vain as him must surely care what people think? and this pac episode has surely made most knowledgeable boxing fans think a lot less of him. i mean the cheek of him. he's come through the weights just like pacman and no-ones questioning how he's kept his speed and power. distinct lack of heart
well
thats the thing
he hasnt kept speed and power, he has lost it
he is no where is strong as he was in my opinion at 130, speed.....its hard to tell but i think he lost maybe a percentage of his speed
if he was a 100% b4 now i say he is like a 92%
true
but you could nearly forgive him for all his past ducking if he fought pac
i am literally disgusted with what's happened. wouldn't be so pisssed of if he wasn't the most arrogant big mouth of all time. nothing worse than a big mouth who won't back up his words
well lets be fair here, the only thing stopping this fight is pacman, to which his own team admitted 5 day cut off is fine but then turn down 14 days....puzzling to say the least.
Pacman should turn down anything the PB demands. If you don't want to fight, don't fight. Just stop making this silly excuses.
The Pac episode is done. Question now is who he wants to fight next.
well pacman doesnt make or break his fights bob arum does, and he is the person that allowed for the blood tests in the first place.
NO, he ruined it years ago not fighting Cotto, Margacheato or Williams.
all those fights are still possible, margacheato maybe not but williams and cotto yes
but to be fair i honestly dont think he cares what anyone thinks about his legacy, some call him great, some say he ducks, if he goes on to fight matthew hatton that to me shows people that he is gonna do what ever the hell he wants no matter what we say
actually lawyers don't lie to the court.
you go to jail for that.
what im saying is there going to have to prove without a shadow of a doubt that the mayweather camo sent those emails
the way it is in the lawsuit is just like "oh...yeah, mayweather did that not us..."
what???? well then mayweather can turn right back and say im suing u for defarmation cuz ur saying im making sh1t up....but wait... i guess the key is who is this "source" we'll see
then what puzzles me in all of this is why is maliginni left out, why are some of these writers who had credible sources about drug testing and made statements towards pacman left out, will atlas be added now???,
remember atlas said what he said on national television, not on some fighthype interview, far more damaging right??,
this whole thing tho is just very very bad for boxing, cuz now there gonna say roach had steroid fighters before, there gonna bring out all of the team pacs crazy quotes, just things that will mess it up for everybody
even in the court order it just says this is untrue and was leaked by mayweather camp...
ummmm ok
there have been thousands like it and thousands will come after
u do know lawyers lie right,
we'll see when the court case comes out
to me this whole thing is like roger clemens "lawsuit" i wish somebody would post that up and post what his lawyers considered "lies" when everybody in the dam world knew he was lying
where is michael moore...maybe he could shed some light into the case???
yeah i understand. not going against anyone's point of view i'm just throwing my 2 cents in. i think this lawsuit is interesting.
i think paulie opened his big mouth before the suit was filed. not completely positive though.
right, paulie did say something, maybe a few weeks after Sr. so i dont know, not atlas which i can understand, i dont know much about law, i guess a person or persons cannot be added once filed?
in fact i know maliginni said something before oscar said something, and oscar is in there...im just suspucious as to why they didnt include him
pac had no faith in floyd reaching the agreed weight limit. cotto? it was an insurance policy, to make sure that cotto was at 145. cotto agreed to it, remember?
why the red herring?
i'm asking if mosley will be asked to undertake random blood tests. will gbp require their own fighter to undertake random blood tests because they vehemently refused to have mosley do so only a few years ago.
dont duck the question.
how can he possibly know that???
Thanks man, I guess this is not a very active hour for BoxingScene.
Ah well. Gotta go off then. Thanks for the heads up.
true they dont give u skills......but he doesnt really has any, think about it
when somebody wants to fight him, he wins because he is quicker, and somehow some way hits much harder, throwing all kinds of weird combinations, but they are fighting not boxing, when cotto was boxing, he was out skilling manny easily, he got hit with a tuff one and decided to fight and well.....u see the result, manny is a great fighter sure but someone who has great boxing skills??? no sir
im sorry man, but when u take a shot from miguel freakin cotto straight flush on ur face, and u say "come on i want more" people are gonna be suspicious, a little man takin shots from a real welter walkin thru them basically, idk just seems strange
the thing is with people on this board, they forget this sport is called boxing, which is to hit and not get hit, when manny fights a boxer he struggles plain and simple,
im not saying he doesnt know what he is doing in there, im just saying if u take a well disciplined boxer against manny, its gonna be a real ruff time,
the way he "fights" ped's or or whatever are perfect for him.....
i agree but he has not fought a guy of manny's caliber before, and castillo did get to him and i think floyd was better than, more active. but that goes both way's, however you can't really compare old manny fights cause he has improved so much in the past couple years, moving up in weight has benefited him and his combo's are so much better than back in the day.
in the first fight floyd broke his hand...go and look at the second fight
I have just received my new issue in the post, BM asked 38 people from the boxing community, who would win this fight if it were to happen.
The result: 25 in favour of Mayweather and 13 in favour of Manny.
An example of people who voted floyd are:
Carl Froch
Buddy McGirt
Johnny Nelson
Barry McGuigan
Tim Bradley
Antonio Tarver
Ricky Hatton
Some people who voted Pacquiao are:
Bert Sugar
Frank Maloney
Ken Buchanan
Steve Collins
Angelo Dundee
Dominic Ingle
Marco Huck
In my opinion i feel Manny will outspeed Mayweather and i don't think he can shoulder roll 8,9,10 punches all coming in a second.
Anyway, i know it has been done before, but i am now turning it to Boxingscene members, who will win this fight?
Please vote, and briefly state WHY you think the fight will go that way......
Lmao... now thats some kung fu shit right there 10 punchers per second????
like the other poster says, if u cant find him then none of that "speed" matters, u have to watch how maywether fights, he does a lot of things in the ring that u may not understand, he doesnt have the best defense for nothing, people dont land a low percentage on him for nothing, it is much more than shoulder roll's and making people miss
floyd doesnt even talk like that "yo" "son" u just did a typical black person and how u think they talk....but ur white so why should i expect anything different
If Floyd isn't set for March 13, why not just wait for the winner of SSM-Berto? From a strategic standpoint, wouldn't that freeze out Pac from possibly fighting the winner of SSM-Berto too?
floyd is my ***** but i cant even understand this, jmm i was like ok, a long lay off and he is the number 2 man in the sport, and if he beats him after waht jmm did to pacman then that will shut some haters up but.........
i cant vouch for floyd with this,
out of all the possible opponents , bradley is the most threat nd the most exciting,
i do believe he will fight mosley berto winner, they said that, but dont waist our time and cambell's and yours floyd by fighting this dude
u know people say that floyd was pushed in to fighting shane, i dont think so, floyd has always been a person who fights who he wants when he wants and cares little about what anyone has to say for it
so him being "forced" is not something i tends to believe, everybody all of a sudden forgets that mosley was supposed to fight berto, if mosley would have lost then what????
so fukkin stupid, how the fukk do u know if he is afraid or not???, how do u know what he is thinking, u dont know him at all.....idiots
i just keep thinking of mosley getting outboxed by cotto, thern i think mayweather is better than cotto, then i see floyd raising his hand and taking shanes belt....
pac wants random and unlimited urine tests. show me a link where floyd is espousing unlimited random urine tests, not blood tests.
lmao
darth void:
"i know mayweather is cheating, i know who is, its impossible, i am going to get him, i am going to destroy him in the boxing scene by posting 4 threads that say the same thing"
Floyd has ties with GBP..
GBP has Mosley..
They are tied together..
Easy spin Motherfukka..
lmao u cant beat these dudes,
i dont care anymore i just want this fight which even with all of this scandal still think is gonna be announced monday
so, has any athlete tested positive for the PED use though the USADA method?
do name even just one olympic athlete who failed to pass a USADA test.
random high tech bullshit my ass.
he called ur bluff, man, just stop u lost
One of Floyds best friend is a known Steroid user..
His name is 50 cents..
Easy spin Motherfukka..
He is a rapper idiot not a fukkin boxer
im talkin about real boxers like um..james toney
like i said
Freddie been caught with steroid fighters/ Roger hasnt
easy spin ma fukka
lol ok?????
but i still dont understand why this thread was made, just stop man, Teddy Atlas exposed this camp last night, its like what more do u want....
hopefully this goes down, press conference is still looming so we'll see
this was floyd's tuffest fight, even though he broke his hand in the fight.....
I thought Corrales was gonna be his tuffest but....well we know what happened
why does everybody making clottey out to be some boxing god
he may be the dumbest "good" welter
he consistently gets up a couple rounds, and then just stops punching, like he just sits there like "please, come back in the score cards, i really would rather lose"
At least Manny aint saying it. Check what Floyd has said in the past, it is chalked full of that shit, straight quaking from the duck himself.
lol at this pathetic excuse