The sides are no longer talking, last-minute attempts to strike a compromise appear to be futile, and Manny Pacquiao's promoter, Bob Arum, says he's three hours away from finalizing a site deal with Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to stage an alternative Pacquiao fight at the team's stadium on March 13.
"If Bob's so strongly moving to the other fight, then we have no choice but to move on," Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s promoter Richard Schaefer told The Times this morning. "They didn't want the fight."
Mayweather and Pacquiao failed to strike a deal because of their dispute over blood testing for performance-enhancing drugs. Pacquiao, who has sued Mayweather for alleged defamation because of public statements made implying the Filipino star has used those drugs, won't accept a blood test closer than 24 days before the fight. Mayweather wants the fighters to be subject to blood tests up to 14 days before the fight. A Pacquiao advisor said the fighter himself has rejected the 14-day proposal.
Arum flatly said today that "the horse has left the building," in reference to a Mayweather fight, and instead was enthused to discuss his plans for Pacquiao's March 13 fight against welterweight contender Joshua Clottey. Clottey lost a decision last year to Miguel Cotto, who later lost to Pacquiao by 12th-round TKO in November.
"This place is absolutely sensational; the boxing fans will love it," Arum said. "I can't even properly describe it without sounding crazy."
Arum attended Saturday night's Cowboys-Philadelphia Eagles game in Jones' private suite, a gathering that placed the liberal promoter in the same box as former President George W. Bush and conservative talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh.
"They both love Pacquiao, and said he'll come to the fight if his schedule allows," Arum said.
Arum said Pacquiao will earn a minimum $10 million for the Clottey bout, with seating capacity being placed at 50,000.
Meanwhile, the Mayweather camp is considering its options for March 13 and beyond.
Take a fight at MGM Grand against someone liker Paulie Malignaggi? Wait until a later date, like May 1, and fight longtime rival Shane Mosley if he defeats Andre Berto on Jan. 30?
Schaefer said Mayweather is willing to fight Mosley, a pairing that will conclude years of jawing between the two gifted foes that have long been near the top of the world's top pound-for-pound lists. Mosley is currently a world welterweight champion.
"At 147 pounds, the man to beat is 'Sugar' Shane Mosley," Schaefer said. "Floyd will take that fight, and will shut up all those who are saying he's a coward."
And is Manny going to ask Clottey for a $10 million per pound penalty for coming in over 147? If he doesn't, then by your reasoning, he never wanted the Floyd fight.
Did Clottey come in over weight against Cotto in his last fight the way mayweather did against an already smaller opponent moving up in weight?
They better ask Mosley for an Olympic drug test. That would be a great fight, better than Manny vs Clottey, but whatever happened to Mosley not being a draw but Ricky, JMM, Paulie, and Mathew are big draws, LOL, have to laugh about that. BTW,Good for Floyd and boxing if this is true, i'm still hoping for Manny vs Floyd though.
Flyod will fight Mosley where? Basketball, I know its not boxing.
Flyod saying "but Sugar Shane we used to play basketball together" meant, lets not fight, but we can still play basketball.:burnout:
Roger Mayweather got his wish---he said the guy with the most skills is Mosley so let's see if his nephew will accept the deal.
if he wants big money he needs to . it will be huge 2 mill aproxx because its much awaited fight . heters will come to see him lose . also if he wants to make some more pwill will be damn good money maker too. but you know size issue will always be there.
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That's the article dude... if you won't take it from Flomo's or Floyd or someone... you may find his own promoter believable. It starts at Scheafer's two cents... good read
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floyd knew shane was not fighting for the rest of the year whe he "called him out."
what are you smoking?
i guess floyd didnt also say that they play basketball together? that shane has five losses? that shane uses steroids?
STFU, tool.
Probably you should have read what Schaefer said about it... can somebody post the article here again... it was the one were Mosley was considered a free agent after one more fight with Golden Boy...
Schaefer said it himself... after the Baldomir fight... they had Floyd on the table... DLH said to Mosley that he has first choice for a fight that should have happened a half year later (where he fought DLH). Mosley said no, he wants a vacation... so DLH took the fight... I don't know why anybody need that long of vacation... but if Shane wanted it ok...
That they played B-Ball together is a FACT.
That Shane has 5 looses is a FACT.
That he took PED's is also a FACT.
Why shouldn't Floyd say that.
Floyd did not get where he is at for taking unnecessary risk. You can say whatever you want that he takes on all comers but he is very calculated on what he does. He is not an idiot far from it....
You are correct Flyod dont fight risky fighters, thats why he is called biggest ducker of all time.
But you are wrong that he is not an idiot, for someone to be almost broke owning IRS almost $6Million and car getting re-po. He is an idiot !!!!
He would be next Mike Tyson? MC Hammer if he stops fighting now?
The sides are no longer talking, last-minute attempts to strike a compromise appear to be futile, and Manny Pacquiao's promoter, Bob Arum, says he's three hours away from finalizing a site deal with Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to stage an alternative Pacquiao fight at the team's stadium on March 13.
"If Bob's so strongly moving to the other fight, then we have no choice but to move on," Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s promoter Richard Schaefer told The Times this morning. "They didn't want the fight."
Mayweather and Pacquiao failed to strike a deal because of their dispute over blood testing for performance-enhancing drugs. Pacquiao, who has sued Mayweather for alleged defamation because of public statements made implying the Filipino star has used those drugs, won't accept a blood test closer than 24 days before the fight. Mayweather wants the fighters to be subject to blood tests up to 14 days before the fight. A Pacquiao advisor said the fighter himself has rejected the 14-day proposal.
Arum flatly said today that "the horse has left the building," in reference to a Mayweather fight, and instead was enthused to discuss his plans for Pacquiao's March 13 fight against welterweight contender Joshua Clottey. Clottey lost a decision last year to Miguel Cotto, who later lost to Pacquiao by 12th-round TKO in November.
"This place is absolutely sensational; the boxing fans will love it," Arum said. "I can't even properly describe it without sounding crazy."
Arum attended Saturday night's Cowboys-Philadelphia Eagles game in Jones' private suite, a gathering that placed the liberal promoter in the same box as former President George W. Bush and conservative talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh.
"They both love Pacquiao, and said he'll come to the fight if his schedule allows," Arum said.
Arum said Pacquiao will earn a minimum $10 million for the Clottey bout, with seating capacity being placed at 50,000.
Meanwhile, the Mayweather camp is considering its options for March 13 and beyond.
Take a fight at MGM Grand against someone liker Paulie Malignaggi? Wait until a later date, like May 1, and fight longtime rival Shane Mosley if he defeats Andre Berto on Jan. 30?
Schaefer said Mayweather is willing to fight Mosley, a pairing that will conclude years of jawing between the two gifted foes that have long been near the top of the world's top pound-for-pound lists. Mosley is currently a world welterweight champion.
"At 147 pounds, the man to beat is 'Sugar' Shane Mosley," Schaefer said. "Floyd will take that fight, and will shut up all those who are saying he's a coward."
DAMN, the Pats gettin' raaaaaaaaaaaaped *lol*
You know what... I would laugh my ass off especially at Bob Arum if Mayweather takes this fight... wins it... Mosley retires... and Mayweather says fukk U to Pacquiao and makes a farewell fight against M. Hatton in Wembley... and Pacquiao is left with hmmmm... Margarito? P-Williams? Marquez at 38? It won't happen though...
Seriously, this is the best way of giving it back to Arum... the March 13th date is not good... because at that time you won't have a real challenge there... no real good WW is available or is an Bob Arum fighter. So you wait till May... fight and beat Mosley... become the best WW... you will make better numbers then Pacquiao (which gives you again a good shot at the negotiation table)... and everything looks even better then before.
I hope it happens... the sports media couldn't disrespect the win or they would show their double standard... boxing scene fans of course would find a way to discredit... but who are they... let them start a petition or something about how Mayweather should be discredited with the Mosley win...
I'm all for it... Mayweather vs. Mosley is a fight that fans wanted to see for years... Pacquiao arrived later at this weight... before this was never mentioned... Mayweather vs. Mosley bring it on... if this fight is signed he can if he wants too even fight Hatton in March... I don't give a shit then...
Bring it on!!!
If Goldenboy is advocating for a fight with shane then thats whats going to happen. Goldenboy will overpay and so will HBO. Those two things aint happening with a Matthew Hatton.
Also, nobody knew shane was "not fighting for the rest of 2006" it was fukkin july for christ sakes. Shane wanted to fight Mayweather in 07 this is true, but if he did fight shane, everyone would say he was ducking ricky hatton, and dont even pretend like thats not what would have been said, since there are countless accusations of that shortly after he knocked out castillo, i was on here when it happened.
Regardless, Shane in 99 and shane in 06 had his chances, he was younger and coming off of good wins. Mayweathers career isnt based on begging guys for fights for 10 years and then when they finally want it, hes supposed to appease shane the moment he wants it. The only person you do that with is Oscar.
Golden boy is also reaching up to M. Hatton people and Malignaggi. And, don't forger Floyd is more loved by the boxing media in the U.K then he is here. Floyd has a fanbase over there. Floyd could easily make 7-10mil in Euros or whatever is called over there. Which would be $14-20mil in US dollars. For Matt Hatton bro. Plus if he fights Pac he will make 40mil later on in the year. Floyd is a smart business man. Floyd did not get where he is at for taking unnecessary risk. You can say whatever you want that he takes on all comers but he is very calculated on what he does. He is not an idiot far from it....
I can not speak for nobody else. I can only speak for myself. I understand Hatton fight. I don't think he ducked Shane. But, I felt Shane was the tougher fight. If he would of chose to fight Shane instead of Hatton. I would of gave him props. And, I would not consider that ducking Hatton. Again I can only speak for myself.
In 2006 it was known Shane was not fighting. He was talking about going on vacation before the Vargas fight. He even turned down Margarito. He said he was not fighting in November. And, when was the last time he fought more than 2 times in a calender year.
I see Floyd fighting Shane after Pac. If Shane looses, looks old and vulnerable then I can see that fight happening before Pac. We will see what happens. Only time will tell. One of us will be right and the other one is going to be wrong...
I'd be happy if they did, and fully support the idea.
That's funny you mention Cotto agreed to it, since Floyd agreed to the $10 million/pound penalty too.
The original debate was that jai mari078 claimed Floyd didn't want the fight with Pacquiao if he doesn't make the same demands of Shane that he made of Pacquiao.
Yet, Floyd's the one who agreed to all of Pac's demands. It was Pac who reneged on the idea of Olympic style testing after initially agreeing to it.
So I'm applying the same logic to Pacquiao. If he doesn't make the same demands of Clottey, then does it mean he didn't want the fight with Floyd?
pac had no faith in floyd reaching the agreed weight limit. cotto? it was an insurance policy, to make sure that cotto was at 145. cotto agreed to it, remember?
why the red herring?
i'm asking if mosley will be asked to undertake random blood tests. will gbp require their own fighter to undertake random blood tests because they vehemently refused to have mosley do so only a few years ago.
dont duck the question.
...but but... he's got five losses. he's a steroid user.
dingb@t.
You're a complete ****ing tool.
When did he say he didn't want to fight Mosely? YEARS AFTER Mosely ducked him twice.
Idiot. ****tard. You don't even remember that happening because you started watching boxing about a year and a half ago.
pac had no faith in floyd reaching the agreed weight limit. cotto? it was an insurance policy, to make sure that cotto was at 145. cotto agreed to it, remember?
why the red herring?
i'm asking if mosley will be asked to undertake random blood tests. will gbp require their own fighter to undertake random blood tests because they vehemently refused to have mosley do so only a few years ago.
dont duck the question.
how can he possibly know that???
you know damn well what kind of intentions you threw that statement out with.
I just agreed with you and gave you more examples. I guess you expected me to be on Pac's dick or something? I am on no fighters dick like you and some other posters on here bro... I don't get in none of this flame wars. I speak from what I have seen, what I know, and what I feel... Of course Pac saw something in Cotto that is why he chose to fight him instead of Shane at 140. Pac also saw something in Margarito that is why he called him out after Margarito beat Cotto.
He challenged Shane in 2006 when it was known that Shane was not fighting for the rest of the year. Shane also turned down Margarito for late 2006 because it was known he was not fighting the rest of the year.
If I remember correctly Shane wanted to fight Floyd after Oscar. But, Floyd retired and came back out of retirement to fight Hatton. Big money fight. Did great numbers more power to Floyd. I don't consider that a duck either.
I give you 99, Floyd wanted to fight Shane after Shane fought Brown. I give you that. But, Shane went to go fight Oscar was that a duck?
If you believe Floyd will fight Shane if dominates Berto before fight Pac. Then hey you have more faith in him than I do. Floyd could possibly make damn near the same amount of money fighting M. Hatton in the U.K then fighting Shane here...
If Goldenboy is advocating for a fight with shane then thats whats going to happen. Goldenboy will overpay and so will HBO. Those two things aint happening with a Matthew Hatton.
Also, nobody knew shane was "not fighting for the rest of 2006" it was fukkin july for christ sakes. Shane wanted to fight Mayweather in 07 this is true, but if he did fight shane, everyone would say he was ducking ricky hatton, and dont even pretend like thats not what would have been said, since there are countless accusations of that shortly after he knocked out castillo, i was on here when it happened.
Regardless, Shane in 99 and shane in 06 had his chances, he was younger and coming off of good wins. Mayweathers career isnt based on begging guys for fights for 10 years and then when they finally want it, hes supposed to appease shane the moment he wants it. The only person you do that with is Oscar.