imo i think pac is a special fighter who fought in the right place, at the right time he is not ali level though.. yet
i think someone here posted that he is an overachiever, i tend to agree with that, given the limited skills, nutrition, he had jumped division after divison and performed better as he went a notch higher
his resume can be questioned but his determination for trying to achieve greater things cannot
i guess a rematch is in order to see if sergio still has some legs left or will pwill be able to solve sergio martinez style
does margarito - martinez rematch thrown out of the window however? the 2 of them are both on their 30's and both are not getting any younger..
margs may have lost some chin
martinez may have lost some speed
he will still get hit the most in this fight error free or whatever that shit means.. he has never fought a fighter remotely close to the skills, speed, power, stamina of pac.. i have it 50-50..
while i do agree that floyd has never fought any fighter with the offensive skills, speed on par with mayweathers, good power, and freak stamina of pac
his unability to apply smart pressure and ring smarts (especially cutting the ring against fighters on the backfoot) against moving counterpunchers would be his downfall IMO...
then again the filipino has made me lose 4 of my last 5 bets :(
Pacquiao can adapt and isn't gonna stop throwing because he simply cannot hit Mayweather; which Marquez did. Fact of the matter is, my strong belief is that Mayweather better win the early rounds while adapting.
when manny couldnt cut ring off against cotto during the late rounds mannys punch output lowered significantly.. he stopped throwing because he couldnt corner cotto and was easliy getting frustrated by it
i believe mayweather will win the early round pot shotting and staying on the outside while on the backfoot... manny simply doesnt know how to pressure and cut the ring IMO, thats a big NONO against someone who simply moves a lot like mayweather...
even if floyd made some mistakes, i dont think pacquiao can capitalize enough to seal the deal IMO..
as much as i want to see floyd on a stretcher when he fights manny
pacquiao has absolutely no chance in hell against mayweather!!!
not even a fkin punchers chance!!!
manny couldnt even cut the fkin ring against miguel cotto!
and it frustrated the hell out of pacquiao!
now imagine the snoozer floyd running the bicycle for all 12 rounds...
floyd will win another snoozer of a main event with accurate potshots and riding the homo bicycle for all 12 rounds
its not even competitive for poor manny...
floyd has a reach advantage over pac, excellent counterpunching skills, add to that a stiff right, hell.. floyd will beat pac to a boring UD
pac always comes forward at weird angles and good hand speed, w/c may catch floyd at the opening rounds, but maybe floyd can adjust to it in the later rounds (that is still a ? though)
also pac can pressure and constantly flurry money may whenever he shoulder rolls or shells up which may result in floyds being inactive and always staying on the defensive which i see is the only way pac can win a SD though highly unlikely
however if pac can walk through floyds punches, outgun money may and beat him to the punch we might see an upset
No ones replying, because you didnt say floyd is gay in the title.
Seriously though.
Pac's best chance is to keep Mayweather on the ropes and in defensive mode. Cut him off whenever he gets a chance.
Mayweather tends to forget about offense when he is on the ropes.
If pac lets Mayweather dance around like he did Cotto. He will totally control the fight, and win a easy UD.
sorry but pacquiao can even cut the ring against miguel cotto in the late round w/c frustrated pacquiao...
how in the hell will he cut the ring against floyd
i dont think itd be as effective if floyd used it against pacquiao
pacquiao has the speed to avoid or let floyd overshoot the left hook
then again floyd still has that excellent right straight, and its not like floyd only has the left hook for his arsenal..
u may be right.....im hoping since juanma is moving up his power wont be too much of a factor since steve does have a decent chin....well only if u hit him after the bell like concep did.....i do believe juanma has natural power so outboxing him should be the strategy but i feel like luevano's power is getting overlooked and will suprise lopez
his power might not be too much of a factor but juanma's activity is still there, if somehow luevano can cut juanmas activity he has a good chance
so far im giving luevano a 60-40 chance of winning the fight
if juanma however thinks he can walk by luevanos counters he might get in trouble with accumulation later on the fight, luevano i believe has a distinct advantage in stamina (considering most of his fights are 12 rounders)
floyd and pac are going to fight eventually im not too worried at all, its a done deal IMO and theyre just hyping the megafight with steroid talk and sub matches...
no way they are gonna pass up the $$$ especially floyd and pac..
if luevano kept his game like in the concepcion fight he can outbox juanma 8 out 12 rounds, but he needs to adjust quickly to juanmas activity though...
or its lights out for luevano
not possible, i believe the potential (floyd-SSM) and (pac-clottey) bouts are just sub fights to hype the main event floyd-pac round late 2010 or 1st qtr of 2011
too much money at stake to pass up IMO
i favor mosley to win the fight based on mosleys power, IMO i dont think berto has handled punchers like mosley, though it depends on which mosley shows up on fight night, mosley has off nights sometimes IMO (Ex:mosley-cotto)
clottey by 6th round, once clottey realizes that he can take paulies punches he can let his hands go and KO him eventually
clottey has underrated hand speed IMO
that statement maybe true to some extent, but...
lil pac is not zab judah, the same way cotto is no JMM each fighter has their own style of boxing.
if cotto does have trouble with southpaws i think cottos training camp are finding ways to deal with this weakness and hopefully both fighters come in prepared for each others pros and cons or else it might be a short fights for one of the other guys.. :boxing:
as some of you stated
kotelnik is a very tough boxer, but i dont think he can hang with the big guns of WW
i think he has a chance against zaveck, clottey, but thats about it...
thats makes this fight exciting because no knows what will be the outcome of it.. But im still rooting for Manny in this one..
true, (though the current odds say otherwise) this even fight (IMO) between two great fighters is something to watch out for
I wouldn't be surprised if all of Cotto's sparring partners were Southpaws. His camp is definitely going to have him prepared for November 14. It seems like they're keeping their eyes on the prize. Manny Pac's camp though..... :sad:
lol, training in the philippines is a bad idea for manny, lots of distractions, with the reported disasters and all, but hey, i heard manny's finally adjusting well to shawn porter and reports say they will recruit JLC as a replacement for omar henry, i say their doing quite well too... though if i were freedie id pop that damn basketball up so manny can focus more on boxing and not doing fadeaway jumpers :chairshot
(side note: maybe manny's experimentin with a fade away right hook, who knows, weird things happen in boxing :crazy: )
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