Let's say Martinez beats Pavlik again, Pacquiao-Mayweather falls apart again, and Martinez-Mayweather gets signed for the WBC/WBO MW titles at a catchweight of 158 because Floyd decides Martinez is too big and it would be unfair to fight him at 160. Pacquiao did it for Cotto's WBO WW title at 145 and most fans defended that because he was a 'small WW'. So would you defend Floyd because he would be a small MW?
Would you be okay with this?
For the sake of 2 pounds, I'd be kinda disappointed, yeah.
Yeah thats what Im thinking. Floyd wont make 158 anyway. Might as well make it 160. Martinez and Floyd will both come in lighter then 160. Martinez isnt a real 160 Pounder anyway.
No catchweights pls......let the opponent come in at the official limit.
Its up to Martinez if he wants the fight.
Legends from the past have done this. Its not an extra ordinary thing.
Let's say Martinez beats Pavlik again, Pacquiao-Mayweather falls apart again, and Martinez-Mayweather gets signed for the WBC/WBO MW titles at a catchweight of 158 because Floyd decides Martinez is too big and it would be unfair to fight him at 160. Pacquiao did it for Cotto's WBO WW title at 145 and most fans defended that because he was a 'small WW'. So would you defend Floyd because he would be a small MW?
Would you be okay with this?
No catchweights pls......let the opponent come in at the official limit.
Floyd doesn't do catch weights like team pussyquiao
Your right, he doesn't or he doesn't abide by them....
Marquez - Mayweather was set at a catchweight of 144
Mayweather comes in at 146.
Im ok with catchweights in fights and dont criticize fighters for wanting them like some people. I am 100% against catchweights in title fights though. The belts lack legitimacy as it is and fighting for a 160lb belt at 158 or a 147 belt at 145 just further takes away from their legitimacy. If we're going to allow catchweights for titles we either need to just get rid of the belts altogether or get rid of weight classes and decide upon the fight weight in each individual contract.
The only fighter that Floyd has tried to weight drain is Winky Wright, which I consider to be a bitch move in a way. But other than that, I have to give the dude credit for beating fighters at their best weight where not making them come down is concerned. Floyd in his days at the low weights was outweighed by a lot of his opponents like Castillo. And Pacquaio would always go into the ring bigger than Morales, Barrera, JMM, and he was even bigger than Oscar.
And the fact that Pacquiao always asks for catch weights against bigger opponents aside from Clottey who doesn't use his size is why I think Mayweather should be ranked over him P4P along with the fact he just beat Shane.
It would be a good win for floyd but I don't like that catchweight for titles mess. If you want the title, then the champion should be allowed to fight at the limit of that weight class.
DLH did it with B-Hop. They had the catchweight of 156lbs. No one was bashing when they fought @ 156lbs for the mw titles.
I thought it was a BS thing then too
No they cant because Martinez has to make a choice on which one hes going to keep in a week or two.
pending if pavlik activates the immediate rematch clause.
If I'm martinez I keep the 160 lbs title to lure floyd. but his promoter isn't doing his job if they don't get him a super champ or interrim belt.
this is fukkin stupid. there doesn't need to be a catchweight. floyd/martinez can fight at 154 with both the jr MW and MW titles on the line.No they cant because Martinez has to make a choice on which one hes going to keep in a week or two.
this is fukkin stupid. there doesn't need to be a catchweight. floyd/martinez can fight at 154 with both the jr MW and MW titles on the line.
I didn't think about that but I guess your right both titles can be on the line at 154 if so then brilliant but we are speaking as if Pavlik ain't in the picture nor Pacquiao so this is just a fantasy fight at best. Pavlik needs to make up his mind so that Martinez can beat that ass or move on to bigger paydays. What is funny is that now Martinez will get 50/50 and he fights for cheap so Pavlik might pull out once learning both will get 1millon each lol.