Following and supporting Pacquiao was all good as long as his plans where to eventually fight Mayweather. With his refusal to fight Floyd he's not even relevant to me anymore, fight Floyd or retire.
Do you not agree that Pacquiao and his excuses have insulted your intelligence? Arum has taken advantage of our fandom. You literally are giving the fans a fight they dont want to see cause of your fighter being unwilling to prove he is clean of All PED's not just some PED's. That is a slap in the face and an insult to those who purchase Pacquiao's fights.
No I don't.
I saw a fighter try and dictate things that he has never tried before. I saw another fighter agree to 90% of the terms. I then saw the first fighter who wanted terms, not want to meet the other fighter half way. That is called being stubborn, and foolish.
The thing I don't understand, is how people can let Floyd say anything, and do anything. Floyd and his people have proved nothing against Pac. No one seems to care that Pac is one hell of a fighter. One thing I learned a long time ago (as a boxing fan), don't listen to promoters, huggers, and Floyd!
All have proven time after time to be full of shit.
Truthfully, this is my first time logging in today in a while. Im completely over the fight not happening. So I'm also done with this topic.
On A Side Note: I give you props for speaking like you have some sense. I take back what I said about you looking like a hugger. You are clearly just a fan that is upset about the situation. I understand.
Like I said, you clearly have it made up in your mind that all the blame lays with Pac and his people(that's fine I guess, not all true, but whatever)...Ok. As you were.
At school right now, and have no time to try and change your mind.
Do you not agree that Pacquiao and his excuses have insulted your intelligence? Arum has taken advantage of our fandom. You literally are giving the fans a fight they dont want to see cause of your fighter being unwilling to prove he is clean of All PED's not just some PED's. That is a slap in the face and an insult to those who purchase Pacquiao's fights.
When it comes to facts I dont like the way Arum, Pacquiao, or any of their representatives handled the drug testing issue. Floyd had a right to request testing, that doesn't make him a bad guy, the response from Team Pac is the culprit. Too many excuses, none of which are good enough for me. Maybe you accept those excuses but I dont. I also find it disrespectful that Arum would threaten to kill the fight every 5 minutes and literally sign Pac to fight another fighter while negotiations with Mayweather were still continuing.
I would of preferred a decent compromise not looking for the easy way out like Pac did. 30-24 day window is ridiculous when your talking about drug testing. Pac and Arum have played with my intelligence as a fan and I dont appreciate it. They basically are calling all of us stupid, right in our face.
Like I said, you clearly have it made up in your mind that all the blame lays with Pac and his people(that's fine I guess, not all true, but whatever)...Ok. As you were.
At school right now, and have no time to try and change your mind.
You are also all of these things, just base on the fact Pac is the only one to blame in your eyes.
Pac did bend on the drug testing, Floyd didn't. Like the dude on the first page said, stop lying, and making things up! There are plenty of true fact to pull from. Facts like, both parties are to blame.
Being a one way hugger is never a good look:no:
When it comes to facts I dont like the way Arum, Pacquiao, or any of their representatives handled the drug testing issue. Floyd had a right to request testing, that doesn't make him a bad guy, the response from Team Pac is the culprit. Too many excuses, none of which are good enough for me. Maybe you accept those excuses but I dont. I also find it disrespectful that Arum would threaten to kill the fight every 5 minutes and literally sign Pac to fight another fighter while negotiations with Mayweather were still continuing.
I would of preferred a decent compromise not looking for the easy way out like Pac did. 30-24 day window is ridiculous when your talking about drug testing. Pac and Arum have played with my intelligence as a fan and I dont appreciate it. They basically are calling all of us stupid, right in our face.
And there is no way around it now, Pac will have to take the drug testing. Reality is, if they expect us the fans 2 Million + to buy PPV and make these guys millionaires, then submitting to a blood test shouldn't be an obstacle at all. Manny Pacquiao is selfish, stubborn, and does not see the big picture.
You are also all of these things, just base on the fact Pac is the only one to blame in your eyes.
Pac did bend on the drug testing, Floyd didn't. Like the dude on the first page said, stop lying, and making things up! There are plenty of true fact to pull from. Facts like, both parties are to blame.
Being a one way hugger is never a good look:no:
I can't see the fight happening because of Arum. IF Mayweather beats Mosely and IF PAC beats Clottey. I can see Mayweather asking for a bigger piece of the pie because of the ppv numbers so that is going to be another sticking point and that is going to rub Arum's a$$ raw.
And there is no way around it now, Pac will have to take the drug testing. Reality is, if they expect us the fans 2 Million + to buy PPV and make these guys millionaires, then submitting to a blood test shouldn't be an obstacle at all. Manny Pacquiao is selfish, stubborn, and does not see the big picture.
I can't see the fight happening because of Arum. IF Mayweather beats Mosely and IF PAC beats Clottey. I can see Mayweather asking for a bigger piece of the pie because of the ppv numbers so that is going to be another sticking point and that is going to rub Arum's a$$ raw.
floyd and pac are going to fight eventually im not too worried at all, its a done deal IMO and theyre just hyping the megafight with steroid talk and sub matches...
no way they are gonna pass up the $$$ especially floyd and pac..
Thats what im saying the only reason Pacquiao was hot is because people thought he was going to fight Floyd
nothing at all to do with him being the best boxer in the world (or 2nd best at worst) and demolishing opposition whilst moving up in wieght in entertaining fashion then?
I am moving forward to May-Mosley, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the excitement of Pac moving to welter mostly about facing Floyd? Fans shouted Mayweather after the Cotto fight, not Clottey.
Following and supporting Pacquiao was all good as long as his plans where to e eventually fight Mayweather. With his refusal to fight Floyd he's not even relevant to me anymore, fight Floyd or retire.
I don't know that Pac ever refused to fight Mayweather...I'm pretty sure he refused to take random drug testing within 24 days of the fight.
If that equates to him refusing to fight Mayweather then the exact same thing could be said about Mayweather's refusal to fight Pac if the random drug testing didn't occur.
I understand you don't like Pac, but don't make things up. Just use the piles of true facts instead of a random false one.
Following and supporting Pacquiao was all good as long as his plans where to e eventually fight Mayweather. With his refusal to fight Floyd he's not even relevant to me anymore, fight Floyd or retire.
well i dont know about all of that i like boxing and i just think both fan base are going to far....no one was more dissapointed than me but we have to get over it and move forward.....the fight might happen down the road