sergio may have won a title, props to him, however....

those thinking martinez will win in a rematch really dont know much about williams. not at all.

Yes P-Will had more time to change but he had to switch his whole plan from fighting a power puncher like Pavlik to a slick southpaw like Martinez. Two very different styles. The way I look at the first fight was Martinez fought aswell as he possibly could but lost in the later rounds. In the rematch I see P-Will making some adjustments and looking to do better early. However it's possible Martinez could do the same. I do feel that Martinez should easily beat Margarito now though. Unless Arum lets him cheat again... nah ppl said something similar the first time saying he's gotten alot better since the carlos fight it couldn't really agree with that. to both of their credit the had short time to prepare for each other. what can paul do different if they fight again.

If you are gonna count the Margo lost that was a long time ago, Sergio was doing pretty well in that fight before he got KOed

When you take time to look at how many more clean punches were landed by martinez when he exchanged with williams I feel it becomes quite clear that he won.

Martinez won the first fight and will win even wider with a real training camp.

pressure fighters like tony and paul williams will own sergio again :boxing: Margarito beat him a damn decade ago. And Williams barely stole a decision.

Sergio beats the non plaster version of Margarito with ease, and I had him edging out Williams in the first fight. Williams is the only guy with a chance from 147 to 160 though, albeit a slim one.

Naw bro Williams had 17 days to prepare for Martinez. He was getting ready for Pavlik but then he had to drop and re-tool the whole camp to get ready for Martinez. Martinez had the same time. Williams was preparing for the biggest fight of his life at 160, whereas Martinez was preparing for a tune up at JMW.

pressure fighters like tony and paul williams will own sergio again :boxing: Man, these haters...when Martinez fought Tony they were both green, as a matter of fact you can even argue that Martinez was "greener" even though he was seen as the favorite to win, he was undefeated and a prospect from Argentina but anyhow most people thought Martinez should of won that fight against Williams or at the very least a draw, he landed the more solid punches, much better accuracy and ring leadership and hurt PWill more in a bunch of occasions, PWill just hung in there like he always does and his punch output was higher than Martinez. Honestly I could see Martinez winning a rematch with Tony, he looks much better now than he did 10 years ago.

Naw bro Williams had 17 days to prepare for Martinez. He was getting ready for Pavlik but then he had to drop and re-tool the whole camp to get ready for Martinez. Change of opponent yes but he was still in shape and in training camp. Martinez only had a 4 week camp which obviously didn't allow his conditioning to be at its best.

Plus Martinez only had a 4 week training camp. PW had a full camp cuz he was already training for a fight. I thought Martinez won the first fight and would favor him in the rematch. Naw bro Williams had 17 days to prepare for Martinez. He was getting ready for Pavlik but then he had to drop and re-tool the whole camp to get ready for Martinez.

P.S. the jugde who scored it 118-110 totally owned Martinez. if that score didnt exist we would see 75% of those saying martinez got robbed silenced.

pressure fighters like tony and paul williams will own sergio again :boxing: I guess you didn't see martinez/pwill cause martinez might have gotten robbed by pwill.

:rofl: It was a close fight, certainly no owneage by either fighter. It was a close fight but in terms of damage, Martinez could have gone and done a photo shoot for a magazine while PW looked like he got beat on relentlessly with a sack of potatoes........ frozen ones. P.S. the jugde who scored it 118-110 totally owned Martinez.

PW owned Martinez's fists with his face. :rofl: It was a close fight, certainly no owneage by either fighter.

the scorecard was right. williams won just that one dumbasss judge with the wide score. wake up people williams won. dont let one bad score make you think martinez won because he didnt.

ok, own.. might be too strong of a word, i apologize pwill won IMO however because of activity nothing else

When did Paul Williams own Sergio? I must have missed that part. PW owned Martinez's fists with his face.

pressure fighters like tony and paul williams will own sergio again :boxing: When did Paul Williams own Sergio? I must have missed that part.

I hope we see the Williams-Martinez rematch. Alot will be at stake.