Cotto will have to go all out on Floyd's body and not even think about head hunting because it ain't gonna happen. Everyone always thinks at going for the chin in hopes of catching him, kinda like Shane did. But we all saw what happened after the 2nd round. Floyd turned into a dragon (In the words of Naz Richardson) and he unleashed a serious beatdown on Shane.
Nah, that'd be a mistake, best chance for Cotto is fighting quite calm using his jab which I believe is the strongest weapon Cotto has but forgets to use it too often
Ummm more lateral movement without laying on the ropes? Did you even watch the fight? He had much more stamina or he would've laid on the ropes like he did in the first fight.
Actually I don't know about the stamina, he might have had more, maybe, but I felt he got tired much quicker in the 2nd fight than the 1st, for me difference between those fights came to like u've said better movement, much smarter, getting out of the ropes, better use if the right and most importantly NO PLASTER!!!
Cotto's plans were to retire like a year ago lol, so it might not be too far from the truth, but it's not going to be bc he got a beating or anything, might be bc if he loses he prolly won't have another big money fight like this one, so there is no point in continuing, he already made good money, why keep risking your life..
Miguel Cotto is too Slow for Floyd Mayweather.
Everyone is too slow for Mayweather, but most fighters who have stepped in the ring with Cotto say that what impressed them the most out of Cotto is his speed, he is much quicker than he looks.
When you're hurt, you should be allowed to clinch. I also have no problem with a fighter clinching here and there to avoid getting pinned down and such as long as that is not your only move to get out of it (Mayweather is a good ex. of this, when cornered he can use 3,4 different tactics to get out of it, its not always clinching.
Clinching should NOT be allowed if its part of your style of boxing, punch and hold, punch and hold, punch and hold, this type of fighters are ruining boxing and refs should penalize for that.
The Alexander Maidana fight was funny, you can see so clearly that Alexander is so used to training that way (punch and hold), I mean he had Maidana hurt and he'd be the one doing the holding...wtf...its already in his system he can't control it cause he trains to fight like that and it works, and this is not something we want our young fighters to learn.
clinching is part of boxing, thats a fact. how much clinching that should be allowed is subjective. it depends on the situation and the person making the call.
but clinching is part of boxing, anyone who truly understands the sport can see that quite easily. especially if you fought yourself, sometimes you can get wrapped up in there without either fighter even trying.
I understand what you're saying but at the same time in that situation, the only reason the clinching happens is bc that's what one of the fighters is thinking of doing once he goes in, the clinch doesn't just magically happend, look at all the fights with great warriors going after each other, you would rarely see clinches bc they would go into each other to throw and block, no thoughts about clinching to not get hit while close.
I dont know...did it? He still asked for it. So its ok for him to ask for catchweights but not others to ask of him.
Clear hypocrisy. Nothing more to say.
Once again, all Cotto is saying the fight didn't happend cause of the catchweight, he answered a question, he moved on to Trout, he is not complaining because manny asked for a catchweight, he is stating facts.
The reason Manny says both purses to charity is to avoid the conflict of how much each makes, they both make 0, end of story no money to discuss. If its only Pacs cut then they still have to negotiate what that cut would be, and Floyd is probably only willing to give 10 million at this point to Pac for all we know.
Btw, I know this is all bs talk between them but it was about time Pac answered to all the bs Floyd has been throwing out there, come on Pac had not recently mentioned fighting Floyd but Floyd kept saying Pac want him to solve his financial problems wanting to fight him, the only one saying that was Floyd.
Not surprised after how HBO commentated the Cotto fight with Mayweather, brainwashing people into thinking Mayweather was dominating, HBO is very powerful, ppl will believe anything they say. It's a business and they do what they're told, to make someone look good/better in a fight, especially when they need to rob someone. I imagined Cotto would try not to fight on HBO anymore and I'm glad, at least showtime is only guilty of commentating every fight like it's a war even when it's not.
Keep Floyd's dick to yourself. This thread has nothing to do with him. I dont like catchweights either but Miguel shouldn't be crying when he asked for exactly the same thing from Margarito. End of story.
Cotto isn't crying, he isn't blaming the Pac loss on the weight loss, so I don't know where you getting those assumptions from, he just saying he doesn't want to do a catchweight against Pac, he did it once and he learned from it, that's all.
For 13 millions...? i fight the Klitschkos brothers same night **** that man ..Cotto if you refuse 13 millions you are stupid :boxing::boxing:
He has made very good money in boxing already, some fighter don't just fight for money but for pride which some fighters have forgotten. Cotto is set financially already.
no exact same fight, cotto is under appreciated
People need to realize Floyd is much better at 147 than 154.. Thats why bum ass Cotto looked good vs Floyd.. Floyds a little slower at 154, less powerful and doesnt move as well.. Floyd kills cotto at 147
You do know Mayweather fights around 150 no matter if he is fighting at 147 or 154. So I don't see how his speed or power would be affected by that, he fights in his walking weight like he said.
Well he better ko him with body shots cause if canelo watched the cotto fight, he should know body shots don't count against mayweather. For every 5-8 body shots landed they might be kind enough to count it as one. Good luck canelo...
The difference between pac/marg and floyd is volume. Cotto can take the hard shot here and there, its when its consistent and 200 punches in a minute that he gets in trouble. If floyd wans to open himself up by throwing that kind of volume, then by all means for cottos sake i hope he does, cotto does punch back.
And btw, did cotto dominate marg this last fight moving backwards/sideways the whole time? He can fight moving backwards, he jsut needs to have the stamina to be able to do it the whole fight.
I believe that Mayweather just wants Cotto to backpedal during the fight, cause if he can do that, he is taking away Cotto's power. But like you said volume had a lot to do with it and I do think May has the skills to do it but I doubt he will, he is going to try without risking too much but I don't think Cotto will fall for it and he will stand his ground.
I really think this is a very interesting fight and it will be much closer than everyone thinks.
Mayweather wants to make history, then fight Cotto for the 160 belt at 154, so he defends his 154 belt as well. That is epic in its own right. If he beats Cotto then he can go fight at 147 and put all 3 belts on the line. I don't think that has been done before. The perfect opponent in my mind in that situation would be Pac but we know that won't happen.
Cotto gets a big knockout win vs a tune up and all of a sudden that makes him "ready" to KO Floyd in a rematch? Ever heard of looking good vs a certain level of competition...of course Cotto will look great vs a journeyman and lose to the best boxer in the world...just natural...that is why Delvin was chosen...if Cotto is all of a sudden this renewed, unstoppable machine, he should avenge his Trout loss
Cotto deserves a rematch based on his performance against Floyd nothing else matters. Toughest fight for Floyd, he himself admits it, close fight and it was very entertaining, very lucrative for Floyd so why not?
I keep hearing how Floyd would have dominated had he not decided to fight on the ropes (like he had a choice), so I want Floyd to prove that it was his decision and not Cotto forcing and keeping Floyd on the ropes like it happened.
Anyways the Delvin win means nothing but why not take advantage of it now that a lot have Cotto so high because of the KO, out of Floyd's choices I have this rematch 2nd on the list.
thought Cotto was fighting Molina?
anyway, Cotto is shot, so Delvin could possibly win
surely Cotto wants a safe fight after his recent debacles
he's better than Delvin, but he simply has nothing left
Seems like I've been hearing this ever since cotto lost for the first time and cotto keeps proving everyone wrong.
how was cotto leading after 5??he got dropped 2 times.seriously does team manny think before talking?
I don't think he means it that way, he's prolly taking the kd's aside, Cotto was outboxing Manny and giving him a tough hard fight, but Cotto was dumb and did a Ricky Hatton on the 4th rd, got hit with a punch that would normally KO any other person and he never recovered from that.
Cotto still lost. Every fight is different. Floyd has won fights all kinds of ways throughout his career. Cotto had a good jab, and that's pretty much all that he landed. Floyd was eating that garbage food every night trying to gain weight on 24/7. Pop said, no no, not anymore. Guerrero didn't land anything meaningful on Floyd either. Legs or no legs, Floyd wins so you draw it up.
And for the record, it never bothers any fighters to win going away. And Matthysse wasn't robbed by anyone, he lost.
Don't forget all the body shots, everyone forgets the body shots its like they are not part of boxing anymore and don't count.
Going back to topic Canelo can try and imitate Cotto all he wants, its not going to work he is not the same fighter as Cotto. He can't change his style from one fight tothe next, not happening.
That lost against Cotto was a flop. I really hope that Cotto avenges that lost against Trout.
Nah I don't want to see a Trout fight, that fight is that one fight every fighter has that shouldn't have happened, its just a mismatch, Trout isn't a better fighter but his height, reach and style of fighting will always make it very hard for Cotto.
I'm getting tired of the why did he turn down 40 mil comment, he turned down the 40 cause it was a slap in d face from floyd at the time, both at the top and pac was only going to get 40 while floyd makes upwards of 100 million that is ridiculous.
Lets be honest in a situation like this with 2 big ego's you have to go old school, what is Floyd's offer now, 70-30, 60-40, 80-20, 100-a penny, well whatever the case, well how about the winner gets that, 60-40 or whatever they come up with, shouldn't be an issue for Floyd since he is the best and can't be beaten, so he is definitely going to win and get what he originally wanted, so problem solved.
The funny thing about Snake is I tried talking about Floyd fighting Cotto and then Pac, which in my opinion are the only 2 that can beat Floyd, the only 2 fights of his that I'd watch if he makes. And Snake wants no part of them by his reaction, so as a Floyd hater he really defends him. He prolly prefers easier fights for Floyd. smh
I agree there is really no reason for a 5th fight, anyone who really understands the sport of boxing saw that night who is the better fighter. The other fights were close fights that could've gone either way but this was the 1st time one of them dominated and that one person was Pacquiao, he was outclassing Marquez just like Martinez did to Chavez, saying Marquez is better than Pac is like saying Chavez is better than Martinez had he knocked him out in the last rd, 11 dominant rds by Martinez and all that could've changed because of Martinez wanting to keep punishing Chavez. KO's happen in boxing Pac was dominating, looking for the KO and got dumb, Marquez knows that was a lucky break and he won't be able to do that again, reason why he doesn't want a rematch.
Do I blame him, no? Would you fight someone again that was humiliating you and you got lucky and won, think Lennox Lewis and Vitali Klitshcko. I lost respect for Marquez, but as a human I understand, if he was that confident in doing it again to prove he didn't get a lucky break he would have no problem doing it. Easy fight and the most money, why not. But his attitude is a give away, and you can tell he knows he got a lucky break, Marquez is a warrior who doesn't back down from a challenge or so I thought, he is so sure of defeat that for this one time he will back down.
Are you serious LOL? Might be the most naïve comment ever LOL...you're probably the same dude who cries about catch weights...
Floyd is just having a Welterweight fight nothing more...it's a way for Floyd to present a gimmick, hold on to a title without actually having to actually fight at 154... nothing more than that...there is nothing epic about it... just stop seriously LOL...
So a fight between the champ at 147 and 154 vs the champ at 160 is not epic?
And a fight vs Pac at 147 for all 3 titles (if its allowed) would not be historic in its own right?
I'm not even giving my opinion, I'm talking about general consensus, that is what fans will feel like.
I saw some of you guys saying its an easier fight for Cotto if Mayweather is the aggressor but I disagree, Cotto has yet to be outboxed by any fighter, not Mosley, not Malignaggi, not even Pac, it was when PAc started getting aggressive on him and making him retreat, just like what Margs did to Cotto, Cotto has trouble while being pushed back, he is not really much of a power threat when back peddling and Floyd knows this and knows this is d easiest way to beat him.
All in all I think he wants to ko cotto earlier than Pac did and I think that's his mistake, instead of just winning the fight, he is just thinking about doing a better job against Cotto than Pac did, and by not being aggressive, he won't accomplish that.
Why should he fight GGG? He makes more money fighting Canelo or Floyd. More recognition if he beats Canelo or Floyd and probably has a better shot at beating those two as well. Lets be honest GGG, is way too big for Cotto, and that will be a huge advantage for him in a fight with Cotto. Now I don't believe Cotto will never fight GGG, but that fight will always be there for him because GGG will always be an avoided fighter.
So, why now, when he has bigger paydays out there? Also I am a big fan of GGG, but what has he done to deserve the big fights? Who has he really beaten? Why not fight a big name that is not at the elite level like Chavez Jr, that way he can keep building up to the elite level and keep getting his name out there for the casual fans. Btw, Martin Murray is not the key to that either, Carl Froch on the other hand would also be a good choice. In fact why doesn't any1 believe he should at least get the other belts before facing Cotto, how about a fight with Quillin? It doesn't do much to promote himself with the casuals but it is another belt, or do they worry Quillin could win and ruin his chances on picking on the smaller Cotto, now who is scared?