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  • Do You Classify Joe Louis As Slow Feet, Fast Hands

    tape shows plodder in Joe

    Saul Alvarez being the exemplary slow feet, fast hands guy
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  • #2
    Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
    tape shows plodder in Joe

    Saul Alvarez being the exemplary slow feet, fast hands guy
    Louis was taught to punch from a flatfooted stance for maximum power,though no Ali,I don't think he was particularly slow
    afoot ,if he had been he would not have been able to score the 52 kos he notched up,during his career.
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    • #3
      There is a clip of Louis against one of the Baer brother i believe with him bouncing in and out throwing combinations. I think it's a myth Louis was slow of foot. He may not have been Ali, but he wasn't stuck in the mud either. It's the way he was trained to draw his opponents to him.

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      • #4
        Louis had slow shuffling feet. Combined with a low guard this is a major flaw. He is lucky he fought in a low talent timeline at heavyweight. And his balance was so-so particularly on the move.
        Last edited by Dr Z; 08-11-2025, 12:51 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
          There is a clip of Louis against one of the Baer brother i believe with him bouncing in and out throwing combinations. I think it's a myth Louis was slow of foot. He may not have been Ali, but he wasn't stuck in the mud either. It's the way he was trained to draw his opponents to him.
          The guys Louis fought for the most part (a few outliers) were not very advanced in the art of moving. A la for the most part they more or less just stood there too, products of their era. I always heard his feet were fast when he wanted but he never wanted. I still have to see it. Also I have to wonder if Joe was capable of exceeding implanted tactics coached in. I don't know if there is an example, or maybe he just never needed it. A little good improvising for Schmeling 1 would have been effective though. It was a long fight. Neither Louis nor apparently the great Jack Blackburn were thinking on the fly. I think sometimes you have to do that. Do you think Louis could improvise his way along in a tough fight?.

          Back to his legs. Joe was not evolved in the art of motion. He used his legs for power. I still need to see.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mr Mitts View Post

            The guys Louis fought for the most part (a few outliers) were not very advanced in the art of moving. A la for the most part they more or less just stood there too, products of their era. I always heard his feet were fast when he wanted but he never wanted. I still have to see it. Also I have to wonder if Joe was capable of exceeding implanted tactics coached in. I don't know if there is an example, or maybe he just never needed it. A little good improvising for Schmeling 1 would have been effective though. It was a long fight. Neither Louis nor apparently the great Jack Blackburn were thinking on the fly. I think sometimes you have to do that. Do you think Louis could improvise his way along in a tough fight?.

            Back to his legs. Joe was not evolved in the art of motion. He used his legs for power. I still need to see.



            Conn, and Walcott were excellent movers. Godoy was not there in class, but he had good feet. There were guys with fast footwork in the 1930's and 1940's at heavyweight

            Louis was not a thinker in the ring.

            Louis, if you add up his round wons to lost in Schemling, Walcott, Conn, is down by a significant margin on the cards. All three men had good jabs at footwork matched against Louis' slow feet, low guard and lack of lateral agility; he was in big trouble unless his power bailed him out with the puncher's chance when they fought ******ly.​

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            • #7
              Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
              tape shows plodder in Joe

              Saul Alvarez being the exemplary slow feet, fast hands guy
              - - Joe had educated feet that cut off the ring allowing his fantastical KO record.

              Ali had fast energy burning feet whilst popping out air jabs that earned zero points along with his useless Ali shuffle that he thought was going to change the face of boxing.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dr Z View Post




                Conn, and Walcott were excellent movers. Godoy was not there in class, but he had good feet. There were guys with fast footwork in the 1930's and 1940's at heavyweight

                Louis was not a thinker in the ring.

                Louis, if you add up his round wons to lost in Schemling, Walcott, Conn, is down by a significant margin on the cards. All three men had good jabs at footwork matched against Louis' slow feet, low guard and lack of lateral agility; he was in big trouble unless his power bailed him out with the puncher's chance when they fought ******ly.​
                Muhammad Roberto Louis Willie is why I think Floyd is just as skilled if not better than the top 6 to 9 all times

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
                  tape shows plodder in Joe

                  Saul Alvarez being the exemplary slow feet, fast hands guy
                  he's got quick feet, he moves them close to the ground "shuffling joe" as black burn taught him, so he can creep into position. he's always in position, and out when he needs to be. he's got some of the best footwork in boxing. A modern fighter, Pernell Whitaker was also good at this.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dr Z View Post
                    Louis had slow shuffling feet. Combined with a low guard this is a major flaw. He is lucky he fought in a low talent timeline at heavyweight. And his balance was so-so particularly on the move.
                    wrong man

                    He has a perfect guard actually. He has his hands in position to punch with leverage, his right hand parrys, left hand lower for speed, he keeps an angle at all times and ducks when need be. As long as he keeps this angle facing, he's very hard to hit from this position and took very little damage considering how active he was.

                    So much time has passed, it seems people have forgotten how good Joe Louis really was. For anyone that Joe struggled with - ali struggled with the likes of Doug Jones, Henry Cooper, Ken Norton and frazier. Louis does not get a free pass, Ali does.
                    Last edited by them_apples; Yesterday, 10:46 AM.

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