Is the poster "BKM-" right about a 17yo HS wrestler being able to beat prime M Tyson?

[IceTrayDaGang]

The kids these days are just as PED-fed as Tython was when Cus got his hands on him and made him sleep in the same bed as him.

Here's one 17 year old wrestler:



Here's another one.

One hundred trillion percent that these monster would grab any pure boxer and get a takedown and you know what's gonna happen to the back of Tyson's head when it hits concrete? LIGHTS OUT.

Combat sports have designed special canvas that enables guys to fall unconcious on it and not die.

Always funny to break the news to boxing purists who have never grappled once in their entire lives.

your mindset will be a lot different in a street fight and competing in sanction matches. like i said, in a street fight, the 17 year old would probably piss himself.

[Luilun]

Mike Tyson would knock him out with one punch and if the wrestler grabbed him he would lose an ear or a chunk of skin fighting Tyson in the street is like fighting a lion

[kafkod]

LOL I think Posters above need to go to wrestling camp and get humbled. Anybody here that has wrestled knows they can take down anybody that don't have any experience in wrestling down at will. 17 yr old would take Tyson down in seconds and beat him.
Tyson is a boxer not a wrestler. Wrestlers dictate where the fight takes place.

what good is boxing skills if you're on the ground?


when a wrestler vs a striker fight starts. the boxer literally has 1 shot to KO the guy or he's going to lose. what are the odds you throw a first punch and it ends in a KO? 0.01%?

what are the odds the wrestler gets the takedown on the boxer on a shoot? 99%?

The kids these days are just as PED-fed as Tython was when Cus got his hands on him and made him sleep in the same bed as him.

Here's one 17 year old wrestler:



Here's another one.

One hundred trillion percent that these monster would grab any pure boxer and get a takedown and you know what's gonna happen to the back of Tyson's head when it hits concrete? LIGHTS OUT.

Combat sports have designed special canvas that enables guys to fall unconcious on it and not die.

Always funny to break the news to boxing purists who have never grappled once in their entire lives.

You guys are extremely naive!

It's like you don't even know that in MMA - which pits grapplers against strikers - there are rules which were put in place specifically to make it possible for grapplers to take down strikers without getting KTFO by head kicks or downward strikes to the back of the head/neck while shooting for the legs or waist.

In a street fight those grappler protecting rules don't apply. In a street fight, NO RULES apply. If Mike Tyson bit an opponents ear off during a fight where boxing rules apply, what do you think he might do to some simple-minded wrestler who was dumb enough to think he could just walk over, grab hold of him, and dump him on the ground like a bag of potatoes?

[Smash]

it is hard to avoid takedowns if done right but my money would be on iron mike in a street fight! low centre of gravity, strong, fast, mean, ouch

[BKM-]

You guys are extremely naive!

It's like you don't even know that in MMA - which pits grapplers against strikers - there are rules which were put in place specifically to make it possible for grapplers to take down strikers without getting KTFO by head kicks or downward strikes to the back of the head/neck while shooting for the legs or waist.

In a street fight those grappler protecting rules don't apply. In a street fight, NO RULES apply. If Mike Tyson bit an opponents ear off during a fight where boxing rules apply, what do you think he might do to some simple-minded wrestler who was dumb enough to think he could just walk over, grab hold of him, and dump him on the ground like a bag of potatoes?

The irony of a boxing purist calling others naive about real fighting is priceless.

You guys still have the same argumentation of the 2000s. Unevolved nonsensical theories.

So, tell me exactly which rules have come into play that prevent strikers from beating grapplers(I'll just ignore the reality that it is the opposite but nvm for now, this should be good). You've got the floor.

[PRINCEKOOL]

People that speak like BKM, don't know what violence is or? Have not really experienced violence in their lifetime HitmanTommy.

BKM thinks he CAN also handle most boxers in a street fight 'This is what he genuinely believes'. This is the culture that comes with Mixed Martial Arts 'A culture if wannabe hard men'.

Some people can just fight, I did karate as a kid 'And also attended boxing'. And there are people out there, who can just straight up fight 'None of your fancy mixed martial training, will save you or prepare you for these type of people'.

Mike Tyson was one of those people 'A instinctive fighter'.

[Tatabanya]

Tyson would probably laugh, and buy the wrestler a beer.

[anonymous2.0]

If you asked me to bet money on that fight, I would sell everything I own and put my money on Tyson. People think that boxers are just one-dimensional punchers with no athletic ability outside of a left jab and right hand. A prime Mike Tyson would be a lot stronger than the average 17 year old wrestler, and that wrestler would only have one chance to get it perfect. I don't see that happening.

I'd be taking out loans and begging for money to bet on Tyson. This is the problem with every BJJ, wrestling, and MMA fan - while correct in assuming that once the fight gets taken to ground the grappler will have the advantage over the boxer - they all presume that the boxer will simply stand still and not throw any punches and let the grappler take him down.

[TMLT87]

It's like you don't even know that in MMA - which pits grapplers against strikers - there are rules which were put in place specifically to make it possible for grapplers to take down strikers without getting KTFO by head kicks or downward strikes to the back of the head/neck while shooting for the legs or waist.

Kicks and knees to the head of a grounded opponent were legal in the UFC in the 90s, and in Pride FC until it folded in 2007, and in a few places even after that. It generally worked more in favor of wrestlers/grapplers than those trying to defend against them. They'd take side control or north south and let the knees rain down. When headbutts were legal they usually made wrestlers more effective too.

Pretty sure downward strikes to the back of the head were legal in the UFC for a while as well. Its generally going to be a serious shot in the dark trying to pull it off. I'm sure a lot of those random 400-0 on the street ninjas that turned up in the early UFCs thought they could stop Royce with that kinda **** too.

[HeadShots]

You guys are extremely naive!

It's like you don't even know that in MMA - which pits grapplers against strikers - there are rules which were put in place specifically to make it possible for grapplers to take down strikers without getting KTFO by head kicks or downward strikes to the back of the head/neck while shooting for the legs or waist.

In a street fight those grappler protecting rules don't apply. In a street fight, NO RULES apply. If Mike Tyson bit an opponents ear off during a fight where boxing rules apply, what do you think he might do to some simple-minded wrestler who was dumb enough to think he could just walk over, grab hold of him, and dump him on the ground like a bag of potatoes?

****** confirmed.

how is biting going to stop a low single? unless you trained exact take-down defense. no street move stops a take-down.

who is going to have the advantage even with biting. the guy on top or the guy on the bottom?

the guy on top can throw elbows. headbutts. and literally beat the guy on the bottom to death while pinning him to the ground.