Is Mayweather the GOAT 154 lbs and under fighter?

[boliodogs]

It depends on who you ask. For making money he was the best. For being a champion for the longest amount of years and being undefeated he is probably the best. For being the best PFP fighter at his peak I don't think he is the best but that is just my opinion. I think Duran at his best would have defeated Mayweather at his best at 135. I think Jose Napoles, the great Cuban boxer who fought out of Mexico would have defeated Mayweather at 130, 135, 140 and 147 prime against prime. The 147 and 154 pound prime Hearns would have defeated Mayweather. Ray Robinson in his prime would have defeated Mayweather at 147.A prime Henry Armstrong would probably have defeated a prime Mayweather at 130, 135 and 140. There were others I think might also have been slightly better in their prime pfp than Mayweather was in his prime so my answer is no he was not the best boxer in the history of the lower weights. He was among the best but not the best. This just my personal opinion and can never be proven right or wrong.

[chrisJS]

It depends on who you ask. For making money he was the best. For being a champion for the longest amount of years and being undefeated he is probably the best. For being the best PFP fighter at his peak I don't think he is the best but that is just my opinion. I think Duran at his best would have defeated Mayweather at his best at 135. I think Jose Napoles, the great Cuban boxer who fought out of Mexico would have defeated Mayweather at 130, 135, 140 and 147 prime against prime. The 147 and 154 pound prime Hearns would have defeated Mayweather. Ray Robinson in his prime would have defeated Mayweather at 147.A prime Henry Armstrong would probably have defeated a prime Mayweather at 130, 135 and 140. There were others I think might also have been slightly better in their prime pfp than Mayweather was in his prime so my answer is no he was not the best boxer in the history of the lower weights. He was among the best but not the best. This just my personal opinion and can never be proven right or wrong.

Larry knows who none of these guys are. He's going to ask for a detailed bio on each of them.

[IronDanHamza]

I've never said Mayweather isn't impressive. Floyd was not undisputed once and only unified once (I'm not gonna count catch weight) even the only time he was unified there were a lot of good fighters in the division that were unbeaten so he left a lot on the table.

I just think never undisputed, unified only once, no greats near their prime are big things he missed on. I believe nearly every fighter on my list had at least one of those thus making many clearly greater and the others arguably greater.

Mayweather is a top 50 ever possibly top 40 not sure why Mayweather fanboys have to grasp that and want everyone to say he's the best ever.

Interesting so do you discount all catchweight fights?

Considering fighters you have listed fought at them.

But the thing is theres plenty of those listed who didn't beat a great fighter in their prime nor were undisputed for a lengthy period, so

So you sound confused to be honest.

I mean, how long was Eder Jofre champion? A few years? Great, I guess.. We know he beat no great fighters. Not just not in their prime, not even at all.

And you genuinely believe that Jofre is arguably greater than Mayweather?

[Luilun]

Roberto Duran , Sugar Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns , Yes Pacquiao because he came from 122 pounds so he accomplish more what 8 different weight classes

[Luilun]

Larry knows who none of these guys are. He's going to ask for a detailed bio on each of them.

Does Larry still have posters of Mayweather in his bedroom ?

[chrisJS]

Interesting so do you discount all catchweight fights?

Considering fighters you have listed fought at them.

But the thing is theres plenty of those listed who didn't beat a great fighter in their prime nor were undisputed for a lengthy period, so

So you sound confused to be honest.

I mean, how long was Eder Jofre champion? A few years? Great, I guess.. We know he beat no great fighters. Not just not in their prime, not even at all.

And you genuinely believe that Jofre is arguably greater than Mayweather?

Most catch weight especially if it was draining one guy badly. Jofre was champ for like 5 years really lineal and undisputed but the British boxing board rated Caldwell as their champion. Becerra being KO'd by Sanchez whom Jofre beat for the title broke the division up somewhat.

He actually has a win over Vicente Saldivar. CLEARLY a great fighter. Not prime but again clearly great when you said he beat no greats period. Legra imo isn't a great but in that moment that's a special win for example and he was at a disadvantage in that fight.

[mcdonalds]

Says the guy who can't even name 50 fighters pre 1996.

Says the guy who literally went on wikipedia to list boxers from like the 1950's to appear more knowledgeable then you actually are

I know how your type works, I did the same thing when I was 14

[chrisJS]

Does Larry still have posters of Mayweather in his bedroom ?

Is the pope catholic?

[mcdonalds]

If by FRAUD you mean one of the most KNOWLEDGEABLE, then I agree.

fraud as in FRAUD. That man himself doesnt even know much about the boxers he named.

[chrisJS]

Says the guy who literally went on wikipedia to list boxers from like the 1950's to appear more knowledgeable then you actually are

I know how your type works, I did the same thing when I was 14

You did that last year?

Incorrect. You can check my post history or boxing history.

Nice way of admitting you don't know 50 boxers though lol.