Is Mayweather the GOAT 154 lbs and under fighter?

[Matt60]

What fighters can be ranked ahead of Mayweather in the low weight divisions? My top 5 is Ali, Lewis, Robinson, Mayweather, JCC Sr. I have Mayweather among the best non-Heavyweights.

[chrisJS]

What fighters can be ranked ahead of Mayweather in the low weight divisions? My top 5 is Ali, Lewis, Robinson, Mayweather, JCC Sr. I have Mayweather among the best non-Heavyweights.

You do realize that Robinson's prime was under 154?

Can be ranked ahead? I won't use Pacquaio because that will send people crazy but the following can and in most cases probably would (by historians at least) be ranked ahead of him (under 154 guys only)

Sugar Ray Robinson
Henry Armstrong
Willie Pep
Roberto Duran
Eder Jofre
Sugar Ray Leonard
Jimmy Wilde
Mickey Walker
Benny Leonard
Sandy Saddler
Carlos Ortiz
Pernell Whitaker
Barney Ross
Tommy Hearns
Jimmy McLarnin
Tony Canzoneri
Kid Gavilan
Joe Gans
Ike Williams
Emile Griffith
Alexis Arguello
Jose Napoles
Ruben Olivares
Julio Cesar Chavez

I'd say those 24 guys could be and probably should be ranked ahead using just fighters who fought mostly under 154. Towards the top of the list the names are more certainly ahead and more factually ahead though the list is in no real order and just off the top of the head.

If you don't know at least 22 of those names you probably aren't qualified to have a top 5 list unless it's top 5 favorites for example.

[Thraxox]

You do realize that Robinson's prime was under 154?

Can be ranked ahead? I won't use Pacquaio because that will send people crazy but the following can and in most cases probably would (by historians at least) be ranked ahead of him (under 154 guys only)

Sugar Ray Robinson
Henry Armstrong
Willie Pep
Roberto Duran
Eder Jofre
Sugar Ray Leonard
Jimmy Wilde
Mickey Walker
Benny Leonard
Sandy Saddler
Carlos Ortiz
Pernell Whitaker
Barney Ross
Tommy Hearns
Jimmy McLarnin
Tony Canzoneri
Kid Gavilan
Joe Gans
Ike Williams
Emile Griffith
Alexis Arguello
Jose Napoles
Ruben Olivares
Julio Cesar Chavez

I'd say those 24 guys could be and probably should be ranked ahead using just fighters who fought mostly under 154. Towards the top of the list the names are more certainly ahead and more factually ahead though the list is in no real order and just off the top of the head.

If you don't know at least 22 of those names you probably aren't qualified to have a top 5 list unless it's top 5 favorites for example.

You crack me up man, and the scary thing is the truth behind that.

[IronDanHamza]

You do realize that Robinson's prime was under 154?

Can be ranked ahead? I won't use Pacquaio because that will send people crazy but the following can and in most cases probably would (by historians at least) be ranked ahead of him (under 154 guys only)

Sugar Ray Robinson
Henry Armstrong
Willie Pep
Roberto Duran
Eder Jofre
Sugar Ray Leonard
Jimmy Wilde
Mickey Walker
Benny Leonard
Sandy Saddler
Carlos Ortiz
Pernell Whitaker
Barney Ross
Tommy Hearns
Jimmy McLarnin
Tony Canzoneri
Kid Gavilan
Joe Gans
Ike Williams
Emile Griffith
Alexis Arguello
Jose Napoles
Ruben Olivares
Julio Cesar Chavez

I'd say those 24 guys could be and probably should be ranked ahead using just fighters who fought mostly under 154. Towards the top of the list the names are more certainly ahead and more factually ahead though the list is in no real order and just off the top of the head.

If you don't know at least 22 of those names you probably aren't qualified to have a top 5 list unless it's top 5 favorites for example.

Plently of arguables in there but two things are for sure there's no way Jofre and Wilde are ranked ahead of Mayweather.

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

No he never defeated Canelo at 154.

[Larry the boss]

Plently of arguables in there but two things are for sure there's no way Jofre and Wilde are ranked ahead of Mayweather.

He just listed a lot of old names to try to sound educated,,how is Chavez sr ranked higher then Mayweather??

[GMAN SUPREME]

NOPE. ray robinson number 1 all time.

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why would you have lewis in your top 5 across all divisions? genuinely curious about the logic behind that

holyfield & tyson were very undersized & past it when they fought him and if you subtract them, his career/competition probably wasn't above wlad's much less top 5 ATG across all weights

[chrisJS]

He just listed a lot of old names to try to sound educated,,how is Chavez sr ranked higher then Mayweather??

Wrong. I actually know all of those fighters and have seen multiple fights of them. Probably 20-30 of many of them too.

How many have you ever heard of of that list and seen fight? Be honest.

We aren't all dumb casuals that revolve around one or two fighters like you. Some of us are real boxing fans that know the history and care about the overall sport. I would imagine you've heard of 6-7 of those guys and maybe seen 2-3 of them. Your comments sure your ignorance and lack of knowledge on boxing.

[future hendrixx]

easily top five.