GGG's Legacy

[chrisJS]

They are or atleast were the go to rankings.

Regardless most of them were ranked in the same place across the board anyway other than Guererro and Canelo.

Mosley for example was universally recognised as the P4P #3 in the world.

Sometimes they can be wrong. Mosley, for example got too much credit for one win over Margarito (who we know wasn't that good without wraps). He had lost to Cotto and had two lopsided losses to Winky Wright and basically only 1 or 2 good performances in 10 years by May of 2010. He was 38 and for him he wasn't nearly the same fighter.

Whitaker was ranked #4 p4p by Ring when Tito fought him and is infinitely greater than Mosley (or Mayweather for that matter) and Tito mopped the floor with him. It's fair to say that ranking perhaps wasn't that accurate at that particular time even though Sweat Pea was only 34 and was basically an undefeated fighter still.

[koolkc107]

Yeah, Floyd was technically two weight classes below him and Golovkin was fixated on still conquering his own division. I don't see this as being something to criticize him over.

If he was trying real hard to push for a fight with Floyd, people would knock him for trying to call out a much smaller man and accuse him of dodging the fighters in his own weight class.

How could they knock Golovkin?

Wouldn't he just be backing up his hype, living up to "154-168" as advertised?

No, everything points to him being just one more guy that used Floyd's name to get attention for himself.

I don't blame him, I just wish folks would see it for what it was.

[djtmal]

shaky shane oldsley

[LockardTheGOAT]

How could they knock Golovkin?

Wouldn't he just be backing up his hype, living up to "154-168" as advertised?

No, everything points to him being just one more guy that used Floyd's name to get attention for himself.

I don't blame him, I just wish folks would see it for what it was.

For the reasons I said:

If he was trying real hard to push for a fight with Floyd, people would knock him for trying to call out a much smaller man and accuse him of dodging the fighters in his own weight class.

The larger point is that people can find and twist almost anything into a fault to hold against a person if they don't like them and want any possible reason to criticize them. Plenty of people certainly already do this with GGG as is.

All of your own accusations are just over-thinking it. He's focused on his own division but said that if Floyd ever showed any interest in a match with him, he'd be willing to drop the weight to make it happen (since Floyd can't make 160.) There's nothing more to it than that.

[Johnny2x2x]

Unless Golovkin fights for several more years, he's already missed his chance to have an all time great legacy.

Since for one reason or another he fought total zeros up until he was into his mid 30s, we just have to guess at how GGG might have done against middle weights with a pulse when he was in his 20s.

What legacy fights does he have? A close decision of a decent Jacobs? A draw with Canelo? Is beating a welterweight a legacy fight? Lemieux? That guy is flat out terrible. Murray? LOL. The fights make the fighter's legacy and he simply doesn't have many or arguably any legacy fights in his long career.

What is GGG's legacy? He doesn't really have one. He's at about the same point in his career most boxers with legacies are at when they are 23 or 24 years old.

[IronDanHamza]

Sometimes they can be wrong. Mosley, for example got too much credit for one win over Margarito (who we know wasn't that good without wraps). He had lost to Cotto and had two lopsided losses to Winky Wright and basically only 1 or 2 good performances in 10 years by May of 2010. He was 38 and for him he wasn't nearly the same fighter.

Whitaker was ranked #4 p4p by Ring when Tito fought him and is infinitely greater than Mosley (or Mayweather for that matter) and Tito mopped the floor with him. It's fair to say that ranking perhaps wasn't that accurate at that particular time even though Sweat Pea was only 34 and was basically an undefeated fighter still.

Whitaker was unranked when Tito fought him both P4P and in the division and hadn't won a fight in 2 years and hadn't had a good performance in numerous years.

Woeful comparision.

Mosley was universally considered P4P #3 across the board when Floyd fought him.

[djtmal]

mosley was also inactive for a grip in between margarito and mayweather...

thats why he was so shaky...

[chrisJS]

Whitaker was unranked when Tito fought him both P4P and in the division and hadn't won a fight in 2 years and hadn't had a good performance in numerous years.

Woeful comparision.

Mosley was universally considered P4P #3 across the board when Floyd fought him.

Whitaker was 1 more month inactive than Mosley, but 4 years younger. He had won a fight but he failed the test for pot. He was also a much better fighter than Mosley, had never really lost a fight and was ranked both in the division and pound for pound.

Great comparison (and better win).

[djtmal]

Whitaker was unranked when Tito fought him both P4P and in the division and hadn't won a fight in 2 years and hadn't had a good performance in numerous years.

Woeful comparision.

Mosley was universally considered P4P #3 across the board when Floyd fought him.

it kills me the lengths these floyd boys go to to get full credit for all these seniors tour fights...

thats like giving sugar ray full credit for duran 3

[TonyGe]

How could they knock Golovkin?

Wouldn't he just be backing up his hype, living up to "154-168" as advertised?

No, everything points to him being just one more guy that used Floyd's name to get attention for himself.

I don't blame him, I just wish folks would see it for what it was.

People do see it for what it is. Your the one with a problem..