GGG's Legacy

[IronDanHamza]

Whitaker was 1 more month inactive than Mosley, but 4 years younger. He had won a fight but he failed the test for pot. He was also a much better fighter than Mosley, had never really lost a fight and was ranked both in the division and pound for pound.

Great comparison (and better win).

No he wasn't.

Whitaker was NOT ranked on the P4P list when he fought Tito.

And no he hadn't won a fight in 2 years.

Comparison is woeful.

[IronDanHamza]

it kills me the lengths these floyd boys go to to get full credit for all these seniors tour fights...

thats like giving sugar ray full credit for duran 3

Not really. Merely stating facts.

Mosley was universally considered P4P #3 when Floyd fought him. Fact.

Whitaker was not ranked on the P4P list when Tito fought him. Fact.

[Larry the boss]

No he wasn't.

Whitaker was NOT ranked on the P4P list when he fought Tito.

And no he hadn't won a fight in 2 years.

Comparison is woeful.

Not really. Merely stating facts.

Mosley was universally considered P4P #3 when Floyd fought him. Fact.

Whitaker was not ranked on the P4P list when Tito fought him. Fact.

facts.............

[chrisJS]

Mosley's ranking was clearly false based on A) being washed up and 1 good clean win in 10 years B) inactivity of 16 months and even his performances after the fact.

These rankings aren't "fact" they are mythical. They can also be blatantly wrong. Was Manny Pacquaio the best fighter in the world as a fact at that time? There's tons of examples of wrong placements and rankings even on a mythical ranking.

[Xi_]

Not really. Merely stating facts.

Mosley was universally considered P4P #3 when Floyd fought him. Fact.

Whitaker was not ranked on the P4P list when Tito fought him. Fact.

That fool has Haglar in his avi......a man that never ever beat an all time great in their prime and a man that lost to a man that was three years inactive.

[IronDanHamza]

Mosley's ranking was clearly false based on A) being washed up and 1 good clean win in 10 years B) inactivity of 16 months and even his performances after the fact.

These rankings aren't "fact" they are mythical. They can also be blatantly wrong. Was Manny Pacquaio the best fighter in the world as a fact at that time? There's tons of examples of wrong placements and rankings even on a mythical ranking.

You can argue whether he should or shouldn't have been. That's another story.

But the fact is he was universally P4P #3 at the time.

And another fact is Whitaker was NOT ranked in the P4P list when he fought Tito.

[Joe Beamish]

I doubt that Golovkin will earn a clean defeat against Canelo in May. I think he will put up a valiant fight, and he will not be defeated -- or achieve a defeat -- in any clear way.

I envision a close fight, and not a decisive victory. Again.

Canelo is a tough, young sonova*****, and he is NOT going to get knocked down or seriously outmanned by an aging (and let's not kid ourselves, GGG is rapidly getting older and weaker) Golovkin. Canelo will "do what he has to do" and win on the cards, or closely lose, a competitive fight.

Canelo's fans will think Canelo won the rematch.

And, of course, Golovkin's fans will think Golovkin won the rematch.

Regardless of what the judges say. The judges will always suck.

GGG's legacy? A likable and extraordinarily tough, skilled fighter in a weak era. Not as good as Hagler, or even Hopkins, but better than Kelly Pavlik.

Comparable to Sergio Martinez perhaps, though vastly different styles. Same level about.

[chrisJS]

You can argue whether he should or shouldn't have been. That's another story.

But the fact is he was universally P4P #3 at the time.

And another fact is Whitaker was NOT ranked in the P4P list when he fought Tito.

One publications ranking isn't universal.

[Boxing Goat]

Is "huckleberry" code for "slave" or "man servant"? Because this is how I envision your role after making you eat dirt. :bukkake:

That means you're my B@tch sucker

[Johnny2x2x]

Mosley's ranking was clearly false based on A) being washed up and 1 good clean win in 10 years B) inactivity of 16 months and even his performances after the fact.

These rankings aren't "fact" they are mythical. They can also be blatantly wrong. Was Manny Pacquaio the best fighter in the world as a fact at that time? There's tons of examples of wrong placements and rankings even on a mythical ranking.

It's all opinions. But P4P rankings generally reflect the opinion of boxing as a whole. Most people though Pacquaio was #2 P4P at that time, your opinion may be different, but most people considered him top 2 and in fact a lot of people had him #1.

And people forget why Floyd fought Shane. The Pacquaio fight fell through so Mayweather took literally the next guy on the P4P list who people were saying that he would never fight. It's also made $ense money wise. Mosely was considered very dangerous.