Let's be honest here....Manny took human growth hormone right?...Reasonable debate.

[HeroBando]

TUE provisions in what contract? The Mayweather/Pacquaio contract.

The provisions came from the ISTUE, which is a WADA document that existed before this fight was made.

And Team Pac was rightly skeptical about the Tue clause when the testers are on the other guys payroll long term. Iirc they protested in advance, Floyd wouldn't budge, imagine that

[Lester Tutor]

[Zaroku]

Leave PacRoid alone please!

[travestyny]

And Team Pac was rightly skeptical about the Tue clause when the testers are on the other guys payroll long term. Iirc they protested in advance, Floyd wouldn't budge, imagine that

I don't know what you are talking about. Floyd wouldn't budge on what?

Again, the TUE language all came from WADA's ISTUE. It was sent to Floyd to agree to, the same as it was sent to Pac to agree to. It had nothing to do with Floyd negotiating it into the contract.

[Lester Tutor]

the Pac brigade getting ethered ala IV Master Greedance Saltwater Revival thread

[HeroBando]

I don't know what you are talking about. Floyd wouldn't budge on what?

Again, the TUE language all came from WADA's ISTUE. It was sent to Floyd to agree to, the same as it was sent to Pac to agree to. It had nothing to do with Floyd negotiating it into the contract.

This obviously didn't meet Wadas Tue criteria since there was no medical emergency. So the either the language was weaker, or they run afoul of their own rules.

[Divine Hammer]

1. If that's just hogwash that NSAC and USADA made up, why did Hauser concede?

2. Yes, Lance took IVs before tests. Are you saying Floyd took 22 IVs?

3. Yes, it's completely ludicrous to hydrate both orally and intravenously. Because you do one, you should not do the other. (please note the sarcasm)

1. his main argument was over the legitimacy of floyd using iv therapy.

2. floyd took as many as needed.

3. hahahaha be serious. it wasnt sarcasm. ur defense of floyd fails every time. floyd took liquids to rehydrate and iv therapy to mask illegal substances. FACT.

[Divine Hammer]

So you believe that their statement says if you can physically drink, then that's all you are allowed to do?

If I prove you wrong, would you admit that you are an idiot?

their document says that if there is no other method for rehydration then u can use iv therapy. what did floyd do after weigh-in??? he rehydrated via oral rehydration. so what makes iv therapy necessary?

answer this question: if floyd can rehydrate orally then why use iv therapy???

you have yet to give a proper answer for this. and i aksed u many many times. but u keep dodging.

[travestyny]

This obviously didn't meet Wadas Tue criteria since there was no medical emergency. So the either the language was weaker, or they run afoul of their own rules.

I don't understand where you guys are getting the medical emergency thing from. Can you point me to that? I haven't seen that there had to be a medical emergency.

[travestyny]

1. his main argument was over the legitimacy of floyd using iv therapy.

2. floyd took as many as needed.

3. hahahaha be serious. it wasnt sarcasm. ur defense of floyd fails every time. floyd took liquids to rehydrate and iv therapy to mask illegal substances. FACT.

Ok, now you've gone full ******.

1. So no defense for Mr. Hauser conceding. Thanks for that.

2. And you know he took more than one? Any proof?

3. Tell us, since you know it all, did he have an IV at the back of the MGM for his final urine and blood test?