Let's be honest here....Manny took human growth hormone right?...Reasonable debate.

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If his country was known for producing this type of talent I wouldnt be as su****ious, but look across the board now. None at the top beside Donaire who himself was a hypejob riding the coat tails of 48's success. The same in the early 00's. Same as the 90's. Same as the 80's. Same as the 70's. None of his countrymen at the top. And certainly none over 126 lbs.

I dont believe he is a special athlete. IMO without PEDs we wouldnt be having these conversations about #48.

Philippines had Pancho Villa, Ceferino Garcia, Flash Elorde, etc... Philippines is the only country that Spain couldn't completely conquer because of their fierce ****** warriors. These ****** warriors are the reason why America invented the 45. caliber pistol because the 38. pistol couldn't stop them. One ****** chief took 33 bullets before they stopped him.