Let's be honest here....Manny took human growth hormone right?...Reasonable debate.

[travestyny]

their document says that if there is no other method for rehydration then u can use iv therapy. what did floyd do after weigh-in??? he rehydrated via oral rehydration. so what makes iv therapy necessary?

answer this question: if floyd can rehydrate orally then why use iv therapy???

you have yet to give a proper answer for this. and i aksed u many many times. but u keep dodging.

Have I been dodging? I asked you whether you believe it says you can only use another method if you can't physically drink water. Is that your belief?

WADA has stated that there are situations where IV rehydration is more effective than oral rehydration. These situations are not medical emergencies that cause someone to not be able to physically drink, as you would like to make us believe. It's up to the examining physician to find out if this is the case.

So just because a person can drink, it does not mean that it is the most effective way to rehydrate, and a physician is allowed to make the case for an athlete rehydrating intravenously. Do you understand?

[Jsmooth9876]

The only reason this came up is because of Floyd and his team. They went to court and Floyd presented no evidence. No surprise there.

5+ years later the fight finally gets made. The accuser, Floyd, admitted to taking something that was banned. This one is a FACT since Floyd admitted to doing so. How ironic!





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Not only did they have zero evidence but when they were gonna have their drug test results subpoenaed they settled with the quickness lol... The ones that scream the loudest are always the ones hiding something.

[HeroBando]

I don't understand where you guys are getting the medical emergency thing from. Can you point me to that? I haven't seen that there had to be a medical emergency.

Here you go:

http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uplo...-Infusions.pdf

All IV infusions and/or injections of more than 50mL (~3.4 tablespoons) per 6 hour period are prohibited at all times, both in- and out-of-competition, except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations, without an approved The****utic Use Exemption (TUE).

IV infusions during home visits, urgent care or after-hours clinics, boutique IV and rehydration services, and doctor’s office visits are not hospital admissions and would require an approved TUE in advance

Case closed

[Divine Hammer]

Have I been dodging? I asked you whether you believe it says you can only use another method if you can't physically drink water. Is that your belief?

WADA has stated that there are situations where IV rehydration is more effective than oral rehydration. These situations are not medical emergencies that cause someone to not be able to physically drink, as you would like to make us believe. It's up to the examining physician to find out if this is the case.

So just because a person can drink, it does not mean that it is the most effective way to rehydrate, and a physician is allowed to make the case for an athlete rehydrating intravenously. Do you understand?

u are so lost hahahahahahahahahaha. wada says it themselves that for treating mild dehydration oral rehydration is far superior to iv therapy. what was floyd doing after weigh-in????? DRINKING LIQUIDS. so what was iv for?????????? definitely not rehydration. please get a clue. unless u believe floyd was severely dehydrated (not mild dehydration) to require iv therapy.

[travestyny]

Here you go:

http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uplo...-Infusions.pdf


Case closed

I think I just opened the case again:

All IV infusions and/or injections of more than 50mL (~3.4 tablespoons) per 6 hour period are prohibited at all times, both in- and out-of-competition, except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations, without an approved The****utic Use Exemption (TUE).


Did you not see that there?

[travestyny]

u are so lost hahahahahahahahahaha. wada says it themselves that for treating mild dehydration oral rehydration is far superior to iv therapy. what was floyd doing after weigh-in????? DRINKING LIQUIDS. so what was iv for?????????? definitely not rehydration. please get a clue. unless u believe floyd was severely dehydrated (not mild dehydration) to require iv therapy.

It is the responsibility of the supervising physician to evaluate the medical legitimacy of the clinical indication for any TUE application involving the use of IV infusion. Oral rehydration is usually highly effective, yet there may be cases such as documented hyponatremia where hypertonic saline by IV is more effective than oral treatments. (17)

https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/resources/files/WADA_Medical_info_IV_infusions_3.0_EN.pdf

Let's see if you can read.

[HeroBando]

I think I just opened the case again:

All IV infusions and/or injections of more than 50mL (~3.4 tablespoons) per 6 hour period are prohibited at all times, both in- and out-of-competition, except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations, without an approved The****utic Use Exemption (TUE).


Did you not see that there?

It was approved 21 days later lol. Again

IV infusions during home visits, urgent care or after-hours clinics, boutique IV and rehydration services, and doctor’s office visits are not hospital admissions and would require an approved TUE in advance.

[travestyny]

It was approved 21 days later lol. Again

7.0 Retroactive TUEs
There are situations for which TUEs may be granted retroactively.
The evaluation process is identical to the standard TUE application procedure: The relevant TUEC studies the application and issues its decision.

https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/wada-guidelines_tue-v7.0-en.pdf.pdf

[HeroBando]

7.0 Retroactive TUEs
There are situations for which TUEs may be granted retroactively.
The evaluation process is identical to the standard TUE application procedure: The relevant TUEC studies the application and issues its decision.
https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws....7.0-en.pdf.pdf

Yes and the doc I linked clearly outlines when a retroactive Tue is possible and when not, for example home visits. It's explicit, no wiggle room, sorry

[travestyny]

Yes and the doc I linked clearly outlines when a retroactive Tue is possible and when not, for example home visits. It's explicit, no wiggle room, sorry

Oh really? Is that what it says?

Then how was it done? And why would WADA not overturn it since WADA has the right to overturn any decision. Maybe you are not understanding the code correctly, huh?