lets set the record straight on RJJ, who the **** did he dodge ?

[Keleneki]

i think RJJ knew he could'nt beat Nunn, u should watch some of Nunns fights in the 80s & 2 me he looks even slicker than Sugar Ray Leonard !

I don't know one way or the other about Nunnn vs. Jones, but I hear you about Nunn back then. He was the slickest fighter I have ever seen.

[mECHsLAVE]

Great ****ing post.

It was a great post, subtracting from it the error about Michalczewski not being the linear champ. He absolutely was. He beat recognized already unified champion Hill in a unification bout. The winner, Dariusz, was the champ, unifying 3 major titles (WBA, IBF and WBO). The lineage began there. He was wrongfully stripped of two of the belts IMMEDIATELY by the WBA and the IBF (as in the same week he won them, yes). Sanctioning bodies playing dirty pool. As simple as that.

And this stuff about beating Hill "worse" so that meant he doesn't have to fight Dariusz is nonsense. Johnson beat Roy worse than Tarver, laying him out cold as a block of ice. So that means that Tarver's titles that he had just won from Roy should've gone to Johnson and that Johnson never had to fight Tarver, that he was better be default since he fought him right afterwards and beat him worse?

Incorrect facts and then incorrect logic.

But the rest of the post was pretty good. You're right about McCellan and Benn ruining each other and about Roy not having a glass chin.

[Easy-E]

It was a great post, subtracting from it the error about Michalczewski not being the linear champ. He absolutely was. He beat recognized already unified champion Hill in a unification bout. The winner, Dariusz, was the champ, unifying 3 major titles (WBA, IBF and WBO). The lineage began there. He was wrongfully stripped of two of the belts IMMEDIATELY by the WBA and the IBF (as in the same week he won them, yes). Sanctioning bodies playing dirty pool. As simple as that.

And this stuff about beating Hill "worse" so that meant he doesn't have to fight Dariusz is nonsense. Johnson beat Roy worse than Tarver, laying him out cold as a block of ice. So that means that Tarver's titles that he had just won from Roy should've gone to Johnson and that Johnson never had to fight Tarver, that he was better be default since he fought him right afterwards and beat him worse?

Incorrect facts and then incorrect logic.

But the rest of the post was pretty good. You're right about McCellan and Benn ruining each other and about Roy not having a glass chin.

How did johnson beat roy "worse" than tarver. tarver knocked him out in 2.
i didnt say that i agreed with everything he said in his post, i just said it was a great one.

[mECHsLAVE]

How did johnson beat roy "worse" than tarver. tarver knocked him out in 2.
i didnt say that i agreed with everything he said in his post, i just said it was a great one.

I was just throwing out an example to show him the error in his logic. Now we are getting into semantics. Quicker vs. Better vs. Worse vs. More Convincingly, etc. Jones got up and beat the count against Tarver, but laid there paralyzed for a long time against Johnson. To me, that's "more convincingly." But it's a moot point to the point I was making, which is that it doesn't matter if you do beat an ex-champ "more convincingly" or not, it doesn't reverse the lineage.

Here's an example you can understand maybe-

Floyd just beat Judah (the ex-champ) but 3-4 points. Baldomir beat him by 1 point when he won the championship. Does that mean now that Floyd is the champ and doesn't have to fight Baldomir? Because that is what he was inferring about Roy beating Hill "more convincingly" than Dariusz did. It's just flawed logic, pure and simple. 100% incorrect.

[LemonChiff]

Id Like To Of Seen Rj Fight The Popular Graciano 'rocky' Rocchigiani. Rocchigiani Was The True Wbc Lightheavyweight Champion And Could Of Beaten Rj. Rocchigiani Was Tall, Left Handed, Had A Rough Inside Game And Would Of Frustrated Rj With The Right Tactics Of Tying Him Up And Out-hussling Him ......

He Was Stopped Prematurely Against Polish Dariusz Michalczewski, He Was Beating Dariusz From What I Remember And The Same Thing Happened In The Fight With Maske. Only Eubank Beat Him Convincingly But That Was More To Do With Rocchigiani Being Totally Intimidated By Eubank Early On And Freezing.

I Dont Think Eubank Could Beat Rj Because Rj Was Probably The Only Guy Who Wouldn't Of Been Intimidated By Eubanks Prescence. Watch When Eubank Turns His Back On Opponents And Poses, Absolutely None Of His Opponents Would Jump On Him They Would Just Stop. Rj Would Not Be Intimidated I Dont Think, His Confidence Was Probably Greater Than Eubanks.

[JuicyJuice]

I agree with all you people about Nunn, there's no way Jones Jr was ever in Nunn's class (pre-Kalambay Nunn that is, before he ****** his career up his nose).

[Run]

I agree with all you people about Nunn, there's no way Jones Jr was ever in Nunn's class

Roy Jones Jr T.K.O. Pre Kalambay Nunn 7.



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[JuicyJuice]

Roy Jones Jr T.K.O. Pre Kalambay Nunn 7.

Maybe. But Nunn had even faster hands than Jones while being taller and rangier (and much better boxing skills than Jones too).

[Easy-E]

Maybe. But Nunn had even faster hands than Jones while being taller and rangier (and much better boxing skills than Jones too).

Nunn did not have faster hands than roy.

[JuicyJuice]

Nunn did not have faster hands than roy.

I bet you've never even seen a young Nunn fight