lets set the record straight on RJJ, who the **** did he dodge ?

[JuicyJuice]

Wow, Roy would kill tito LOL.

Yep, Tito was not a natural middleweight. And the Jones/Tito fight would of taken place at 168.

[Moschino045]

I've not actually seen that yet, he came out of retirement and fought over there largely unknown to the UK public. Put on exhibition matches as well apparently?

go 2 bit *******s & they might have it

[JuicyJuice]

go 2 bit *******s & they might have it

I'm going to buy it from my DVD contact, if he has it. Actually.

[THE REAL NINJA]

That's absolutely ludicrous,you obviously just do not know who Eubank WAS . He was hardly ever out of the newspapers in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa. He fought in front of almost 30,000 at Sun City in a sell-out, and your trying to tell me they bought the tickets for nothing? Get the hell out of here.

... point made ..yes i do know who he is,one can not help but know who he is if they have ever ran into you....look,he was a great fighter and any boxing fan should take a look at him but he was much bigger for you all then he was for us...non boxing fans in the US would have no clue who he is,I bet you cant say that over there ...that is my point,even non boxing fans here know who tyson,foreman,ali,jones,DLH,maybe even Lewis are but not banks

[nitrokid]

Michalczewski is the main one. Not willing to fight the linear champ is definitely a dodge, however you slice it. Not to mention he was begged to make this fight for years by writers, fans, HBO, everyone.

He was content to be a paper champ at 175, sadly.

Didn't he lose to Gonzalez? A Guy that Roy handled and beat miserably. I know styles make fights but when you beat someone so badly then that someone goes to beat another guy. He wasn't in Roy's level.

[Dude]

Didn't he lose to Gonzalez? A Guy that Roy handled and beat miserably. I know styles make fights but when you beat someone so badly then that someone goes to beat another guy. He wasn't in Roy's level.

Oh my god ... just when you think that the Roy Jr. fans can't get any more redicioulos they prove you wrong.

But you really were being sarcastic there, right?

Michaelczweski was 35 when he fought Gonzalez. Very much past his prime. He announced retirement after the fight (though he came back once more). Basicly he was finished as a fighter at that stage.

Roy Jones fought Gonzalez in 2001. At that time Michaelczewski would've won the fight as well. Jones beat Gonzalez on a UD. Do you think Roy would win against a Top 10 fighter today? I very much doubt it.

Dariusz was beaten on a more or less controversial SD btw. It's not like he got knocked out and completely demolished.

If you wanna talk about shared opponents lets talk about Montell Griffin. Roy was behind on the scorecards when he got DQed in their first match. It was a strange stoppage but he may have lost the fight anyway.

Dariusz beat Griffin through KO in the fourth.

The time span this thread is about is between 1996 and 2000. That's were this bout should've taken place. And that's were Roy would've gotten exposed.

Shame it never happened!

[nitrokid]

Roy should've been DQ'd in that fight, He purposedfully and maliciously hit Griffin while he was down in that fight. However, don't forget they fought again and the outcome was very much different.

[OptimusWolf]

This thread is quite depressing, but I thought I'd summarise it for my own peace of mind.

Discussion on Roy Jones jnr - Some think he was a complete drug riddled fraud, others think he was the top LHW ever, reality was that he was almost certainly the best SMW-LHW of the modern era, but was more interested in making money than being the best, so neglected his sporting duty to beat the champ at 175. Very naughty of RJJ.

Discussion on Eubank's status as a world-wide name - Not sure Eubank was ever on the cover of Woman's Own, but he was one hell of an oddball whose rivalry with Benn is unmatched as far as I can see.

NOTE - I don't really get into all this partisan nationalist BS, but quite a few US posters have been really myopic about this, constantly referring to Eubank's status in the US. Depressing attitude, US is the biggest economy with the largest cultural impact currently, but there are 5.7bn other little people on this planet, who can give people their own status.

Anyone from the US ever heard of Sachin Tendulkar? I promise you he's a bigger name in sport than DLH hands down.

Laters

[THE REAL NINJA]

This thread is quite depressing, but I thought I'd summarise it for my own peace of mind.

Discussion on Roy Jones jnr - Some think he was a complete drug riddled fraud, others think he was the top LHW ever, reality was that he was almost certainly the best SMW-LHW of the modern era, but was more interested in making money than being the best, so neglected his sporting duty to beat the champ at 175. Very naughty of RJJ.

Discussion on Eubank's status as a world-wide name - Not sure Eubank was ever on the cover of Woman's Own, but he was one hell of an oddball whose rivalry with Benn is unmatched as far as I can see.

NOTE - I don't really get into all this partisan nationalist BS, but quite a few US posters have been really myopic about this, constantly referring to Eubank's status in the US. Depressing attitude, US is the biggest economy with the largest cultural impact currently, but there are 5.7bn other little people on this planet, who can give people their own status.

Anyone from the US ever heard of Sachin Tendulkar? I promise you he's a bigger name in sport than DLH hands down.

Laters

you really do not think that Ali vs Frazier had a bigger impact then Eubank vs Benn ?

[Easy-E]

Oh my god ... just when you think that the Roy Jr. fans can't get any more redicioulos they prove you wrong.

But you really were being sarcastic there, right?

Michaelczweski was 35 when he fought Gonzalez. Very much past his prime. He announced retirement after the fight (though he came back once more). Basicly he was finished as a fighter at that stage.

Roy Jones fought Gonzalez in 2001. At that time Michaelczewski would've won the fight as well. Jones beat Gonzalez on a UD. Do you think Roy would win against a Top 10 fighter today? I very much doubt it.

Dariusz was beaten on a more or less controversial SD btw. It's not like he got knocked out and completely demolished.

If you wanna talk about shared opponents lets talk about Montell Griffin. Roy was behind on the scorecards when he got DQed in their first match. It was a strange stoppage but he may have lost the fight anyway.

Dariusz beat Griffin through KO in the fourth.

The time span this thread is about is between 1996 and 2000. That's were this bout should've taken place. And that's were Roy would've gotten exposed.

Shame it never happened!

This is part of HBO's profile of RJJ.

His only loss during the '90's came stunningly and surprisingly. Jones was victimized by a controversial late hit in a WBC light heavyweight defense against Montell Griffin on March 21, 1997 in Atlantic City. Leading on all three scorecards and already having floored Griffin twice, Jones was anxious to finish him and had him in trouble near the end of the ninth round. Two glancing shots to an exhausted, kneeling Griffin as the bell sounded disqualified Jones.

It is important to note that Roy was ahead on the cards, had dropped montell twice, and the ref never interviened on montell's behalf, insinuating that griffin was officially down. Roy then tko'd him in round 1 of the next fight.
That is one weak ass argument.