Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter: DeGale May Be Easier To Make Than Brook

[ИATAS]

Kell Brook is willing to go up 10lbs and Loeffler is not sure about his fighter dropping down 3lbs?

Come on, man.

What? Why would they want to drop down any weight at all for Kell brook of all people? Obviously they have bigger fish to fry (Canelo, Saunders, Jacobs). Besides, if you think Brook/Hearn would seriously make this fight you're crazy. Everyone knows the only reason Brook mentioned Golovkin is because Khan is fighting Canelo, obviously. This fight will not, and should never, happen.

[Metho_4u]

What? Why would they want to drop down any weight at all for Kell brook of all people? Obviously they have bigger fish to fry (Canelo, Saunders, Jacobs). Besides, if you think Brook/Hearn would seriously make this fight you're crazy. Everyone knows the only reason Brook mentioned Golovkin is because Khan is fighting Canelo, obviously. This fight will not, and should never, happen.

Then why aren't they frying them?

FACT, even at 160 Brook would be the best name on Golovkins resume

[Dean_Razorback]

They aren't considering him. Boxingscene has made a few articles from the same two quotes (one from Loeffler, one from Hearn) but just change the titles.

The hearn quote is saying he spoke to Leoffler, who said Golovkin won't go below 160 for Brook and the Loeffler quote he's just verifying that Hearn did contact him, but it seems unlikely and that no serious discussion has taken place, and in the same interview Leoffler says they are going after Canelo first obviously, if that fails for whatever reason then they target Saunders and if that also fails then the best options are Jacobs or DeGale perhaps.

that makes more sense. still. canelo vs ggg needs to happen, they just can't keep pretending that the guy doesn't exist

[Shadoww702]

GGG is making something happen. He is fighting his mandatory challenger for the IBF title and after Canelo fights Khan the winner of that has to agree to fight Golovkin next or be stripped of the WBC belt, which Golovkin with then pick up by default.

Golovkin is in a great position right now to take his career and profile to new heights. All he has to do is keep fighting, and winning, at 160, and by the end of next year he will be the undisputed, unified MW champion and one of the biggest names in boxing.

Which would be the equivalent of The Alabama Crimson Tide winning the FCS Football Playoff Championship! Who knows though North Dakota St. Might even have better odds then 30-1 to beat them???

This is how you envision GGG becoming and ALL-TIME great??? By unifying all the MW titles???

WBC strips Canelo and makes GGG. Fight Jorge Heiland for the Belt.

WBO makes Arif Magomedov and GGG Fight for the Belt after Saunders tells GGG to F'k himself and his "Life Changing" money offer...later we find out was for $650,000

Alfonso Bianco becomes WBA mandatory which GGG happily fights.

With a FINAL showdown for the IBF mandatory Gran Turino with special guest referee....Clint Eastwood.

Wow!!! I'm VERY impressed

[kafkod]

The contract that Golovkin signed with Cotto and Canelo was for him to fight the winner of their match next, unless BOTH parties agreed to extend the contract to allow other fights to take place first.

Anybody who thinks that either Cotto, Canelo or the WBC would have given GGG permission to sign another contract with Andre Ward, and keep the contract he had with them open, is not living in the real world!

Don't tell me **** about WBC rules. They're easily broken and amended when the WBC wants. You really think the WBC would've made him lose his mando sport after they'd already broke their necks to amend their own rules by allowing him to fight for the interim? They amended their own rules with Floyd, Garcia, & JCC Jr and with this upcoming Canelo fight. Their rules mean nothing

Business contracts are not the same as WBC rules.

[kafkod]

People act as if Danny Jacobs doesn't exist. GGG has yet to call him out after that Quillen fight. GGG has options however doesn't seem to want to take the risk. Saunders in the UK would be a nice payday so I get it but if he beat Canelo he's still fighting a undersized fighter. I'll give GGG credit for fighting DeGale if that happens which I'm very skeptical.

Golovkin is the WBA super champion. AKA "the WBA champion"

Jacobs is the WBA regular champion. AKA "the No1 contender for GGG's WBA title"

Did you hear Jacobs calling GGG out after the Quillin fight?

Me neither.

True, nobody should be given credit for a fight until it happens. Andre Ward fans don't agree with that, btw.

[ИATAS]

Then why aren't they frying them?

Are you trolling or ignorant? Obviously they tried to fight Canelo, who wasn't ready and they tried to fight Saunders who flat out rejected him. Being that they couldn't secure a unification fight they are now forced to fight their IBF mandatory fight (Wade).

FACT, even at 160 Brook would be the best name on Golovkins resume

According to who? I don't think that. Would Brook beat Martin Murray, Monroe, Stevens and Lemieux? Very unlikely since he's a welterweight. There are weight classes for a reason. It would be a joke of a fight for Gennady to fight Brook and disrespectful to the sport.

[IronDanHamza]

It's not Golovkins people, HBO was not doing business with Haymon. But the new head of HBO seems more open to working with Haymon, plus Degale has a real promoter they can work with

Oh ok. So Golovkin is open to fighting Haymon fighters now is what you're telling me?

Also, to my understanding, Haymon is running the ship now with Degale not Hearn.

[IronDanHamza]

Wade is an Al Haymon fighter, who is Golovkin's next opponent.

Loeffler has always maintained he's cool with Haymon, I think the issue in the past was Haymon guys not being able to fight on HBO (whether that's from Haymon saying no to HBO or HBO saying no to Haymon fighters or both). Things have started to change recently with Khan & Wade both fighting on HBO so it seems things are changing a bit.

Well that's always good news.

Good to hear.

[DoktorSleepless]

No, he would have had to give up the mando. This was explained to you before jacka$$. Forgot the lesson already, eh. Figures, that's how trolls operate

cmon man, you know better than that. Canelo-Khan is happening within 90 days, not 18 months down the road.

Anyone with higher than a 3rd grade education knows exactly what would have happened had GGG took the bait for the Ward offer. Sure, just the act of taking the deal wouldnt have gotten him stripped of the WBC interim title, but what WOULD have happened is that GBP would have notified the WBC that they were ready to negotiate for their mandatory, of course knowing full well that GGG was already contractually bound to the the Ward fight, would be unable to negotiate and would thus be stripped.

Stop acting like a 1st year noob.......

There's was no scenario where Canelo could force Golovkin to drop his mandatory position.

The offer Ward gave Golovkin was to have an interim fight in between and then fight sometime within the first half of 2016 (mid year most likely) so the Ward fight would not get in the way at all. After Cotto-Canelo, negotiations would begin, and Canelo would be either forced to take the fight within 90 days, or work out a step aside deal, which works out for Golovkin-Ward either way. If Canelo wanted a step aside deal to avoid Golovkin after Cotto, he'll would also be forced to accommodate Golovkins fight against Ward mid year as part of the deal. If he did not want to accommodate GGG's Ward fight, Canelo would get himself stripped once GGG forced the purse bid.