Why has GGG's career been moved so slowly?

[sicko]

With respect to GGG, this stuff about nobody wanting to fight him is working against him because now I think they're trying to live up to and maintain that reputation of being the most avoided fighter. So much so that now what they're doing is waiting for a big match up to come to them instead of creating one themselves. A Sides don't wait for nobody, they can go fight anybody and generate big Money no matter who they fight, those are the REAL A Sides.

He can make great Paydays with Lara, Ward and Lee if he beats Billy Joe Saunders. So either you want to truly be considered one of the best or you want to fight weak opponents and let HBO try to convince everybody that you're the best...PICK ONE!

[b00g13man]

That's what he does. Dude is on pins and needles because he called Floyd and Sweet Pea "one-dimensional fighters" and got laughed out of the thread. He tried to make a comeback and change the topic to Floyd/Canelo but miserably failed and got buried. Now he's trying to use this thread to salvage whatever he had left.

That was definitely one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard anyone say here. There's just no context where that ever makes sense.

Edit - And he's doubling down on that ******ity. You can't make this up.

[j0zef]

With respect to GGG, this stuff about nobody wanting to fight him is working against him because now I think they're trying to live up to and maintain that reputation of being the most avoided fighter. So much so that now what they're doing is waiting for a big match up to come to them instead of creating one themselves. A Sides don't wait for nobody, they can go fight anybody and generate big Money no matter who they fight, those are the REAL A Sides.

He can make great Paydays with Lara, Ward and Lee if he beats Billy Joe Saunders. So either you want to truly be considered one of the best or you want to fight weak opponents and let HBO try to convince everybody that you're the best...PICK ONE!

You're not making sense. Lara is not a great payday and is with Haymon,

Ward fight didn't happen earlier this year and has no chance of happening now or next year due to schedule of both fighters and the size difference. It's also not a great payday by any means.

And he's been very adamant about wanting to fight Lee for almost 2 years now.

What are you blaming Golovkin and/or HBO for?

[El-blanco]

He fought Judah the same way he fought Guerrero?

You think that had anything to do with age? He fought Judah that way after Judah fell apart and even then it's not like he beat the **** out of him. Also referencing one fight out of many really isn't a strong argument. Floyd's style had to change when he moved up because he wasn't bigger than his opponents anymore, like he was at 130. He was terrified to even exchange with berto. Do you remember what he looked like when did for five seconds? He was moving backwards throwing combos. That's not because of age, that's just his style at that weight. There's really nothing wrong with it either, he's the best. I just don't know why that's not enough for you Floyd fanatics. It's not enough that he's acknowledged as such, you demand he has to be acknowledged as some offensive killer who was only limited by his hands and old age. Give me a ****in break lol.

[The Big Dunn]

You think that had anything to do with age? He fought Judah that way after Judah fell apart and even then it's not like he beat the **** out of him. Also referencing one fight out of many really isn't a strong argument. Floyd's style had to change when he moved up because he wasn't bigger than his opponents anymore, like he was at 130. He was terrified to even exchange with berto. Do you remember what he looked like when did for five seconds? He was moving backwards throwing combos. That's not because of age, that's just his style at that weight. There's really nothing wrong with it either, he's the best. I just don't know why that's not enough for you Floyd fanatics. It's not enough that he's acknowledged as such, you demand he has to be acknowledged as some offensive killer who was only limited by his hands and old age. Give me a ****in break lol.

He had 24 ko's in his 1st 35 fights (69% KO ratio) before going to WW in fight 36. I think the boxer-puncher label is very fair considering this.

Also, if you watch any of the old fights on USA when he was coming up, he was viewed as more of a power puncher because Roger was training him and he was more offensive rather than defensive.

[Lester Tutor]

And he's been very adamant about wanting to fight Lee for almost 2 years now.

What? Kid stop saying lies. Find me one video or publishement on the internet where Loeffler, Sanchez, or GGG even spoke about reorganizing the initial fake supposed Lee bout. If you recall the "negotiations" were hindered because GGG lost his dad, and neither did any camp, including Lee, ever speak about that bout or even making it happen. No context about it anywhere!!! İt's only now that those two goons want to go at it...

Good luck!

[sicko]

You're not making sense. Lara is not a great payday and is with Haymon,

Ward fight didn't happen earlier this year and has no chance of happening now or next year due to schedule of both fighters and the size difference. It's also not a great payday by any means.

And he's been very adamant about wanting to fight Lee for almost 2 years now.

What are you blaming Golovkin and/or HBO for?

And this is exactly why his career is moving slowly and by the time he gets a big match up he will be old and washed because his team and his fans seem to be content with waiting for something BETTER to come along win in actuality, their is nothing better. What happens to GGG if Canelo doesn't fight him? Then What?

[Szef]

He had 24 ko's in his 1st 35 fights (69% KO ratio) before going to WW in fight 36. I think the boxer-puncher label is very fair considering this.

Also, if you watch any of the old fights on USA when he was coming up, he was viewed as more of a power puncher because Roger was training him and he was more offensive rather than defensive.

And if he had finished his career before going to WW we would be talking about him as a boxer-puncher (not so much, though, a power puncher seems more like it.)

But the biggest wins of his carrer occured at WW, the division where he fought the guys his own size.

[El-blanco]

He had 24 ko's in his 1st 35 fights (69% KO ratio) before going to WW in fight 36. I think the boxer-puncher label is very fair considering this.

Also, if you watch any of the old fights on USA when he was coming up, he was viewed as more of a power puncher because Roger was training him and he was more offensive rather than defensive.

Yes, back then. You guys keep talking about his past as if that's all that encapsulates his career. That was the first part of his career, but if he was some real killer that would have continued. I don't understand why it's so hard for you guys to admit that he's not some monstrous puncher. He was able to beat up inferior and smaller guys in the lower weights, most guys do that coming up. Before you mention the corrales fight, remember what that looked like. Great victory but the ko came from dazzling skill rather than him putting a Trinidad type beating on the guy. Speaking of Trinidad, that's a destructive puncher. He did it his whole career. What you guys are suggesting is so dishonest it's ridiculous.

[The Big Dunn]

And if he had finished his career before going to WW we would be talking about him as a boxer-puncher (not so much, though, a power puncher seems more like it.)

But the biggest wins of his carrer occured at WW, the division where he fought the guys his own size.

so for 35/49 fights -71%-he was a boxer-puncher but because he finished the last 14 as a defensive mover (except for Hatton and Ortiz) that is how he is categorized. That doesn't seem right.

His highest profile fights came at 147 and above and he was a defensive specialist so I can understand why a casual fan would see him as this. As boxing diehards, I would think we'd label him based on what he did the majority of his career.