Why has GGG's career been moved so slowly?

[El-blanco]

I can only speak for myself.

I never once crapped on GGG for not beating Sturm. ALl I did was remind some of the GGG diehards that GGG was elevated from interim champ to full champ and didn't win his belt in the ring.

That is 100% factual. AM I not supposed to post it?

Lol you make me laugh. It's the way you phrase it. Yes, it's a fact but the way you frame it makes it seem like that fact reflects badly on golovkin. The reality is sturm was too scared to fight him and forfeited. That reflects badly on him. I honestly don't see the relevance in even mentioning it. Winning a belt by forfeit is pretty impressive.

[El-blanco]

The most laughable part is they're using Ward as if the guy really wanted the fight. There's ZERO evidence for it. There was a time when Team GG was actually despearate for fights and waiting for Ward's move. They got sick of his dilly dallying attitude.

There's blatant bias. They don't even want him to fight Canelo because they think he's too inferior. Then they turn around and say Canelo is one of Floyd's best wins lol.

[Szef]

There's blatant bias. They don't even want him to fight Canelo because they think he's too inferior. Then they turn around and say Canelo is one of Floyd's best wins lol.

They don't want him to fight Canelo because they know he'll beat him.

And, what's even worse, he'll beat him probably much more impressive than Floyd did.

The GGG hate on this forum has reached a psychotic level. He's new Floyd Mayweather of NSB.

[New England]

That's what he does. Dude is on pins and needles because he called Floyd and Sweet Pea "one-dimensional fighters" and got laughed out of the thread. He tried to make a comeback and change the topic to Floyd/Canelo but miserably failed and got buried. Now he's trying to use this thread to salvage whatever he had left.

whitaker was a bit less of a one dimensional fighter, but floyd mayweather is the definition of a boxer and a counterpuncher. he's not a boxer-puncher, he's not a rounded fighter who can do lots of different things on both offense and defense like roberto duran. the only advantage mayweather has over duran is speed, which he uses primarily for defense. you haven't watched enough boxing if you don't recognize that.

he counters and defends from the inside [usually by rolling, covering up, or holding,] and he boxes and counters from the outside. he doesn't finish fights. he boxes for points. he doesn't not generate offense for the sake of doing damage. he reacts to mistakes with his reflexes and with a dependence on fundamentals. he's the best defensive fighter i've ever seen by a margin.


i'm not convinced that you've seen enough of the other great fighters to know what i'm talking abouw ehn i tell you that floyd mayweather's offense is weak by comparison. ray leonard, tommy hearns, and ray robinson were all great boxers. they also had another gear that they could go to and take a man's head off. floyd doesn't have the talent [punching power,] or the temperament. robinson and leonard also had cast iron chins. floyd's is good, but is is not cast iron.

robinson might have the best chin ever. he might have the best left hook ever. he's one of the best boxers ever. that is a well rounded fighter. floyd is one dimensional by comparison. what's he gong to do in a fantasy fight when he can't outbox a guy by landing a few potshots per round? lose



floyd can't do any the things they can do offensively, and they can can come much closer to what he can do defensively, even if i concede that he's the best defensive fighter i've ever seen. he does not have that kind of offensive dimension. you were arguing that he did. you brought up canelo alvarez and said that "floyd walked him down" as evidence to the idea that floyd isn't a one dimensional fighter. that was the heart of the thread, and it went on for several pages, eventually ending with you refusing to point out rounds, or even stretches of seconds, where floyd walked canelo down.

floyd did not walk canelo down. you are, again, welcome to point me to anything you think constitutes walking a man down in that fight. it shows a complete lack of understanding of boxing for starters, but it also shows a ridiculous bias when you through hoops to try and insist that the sky is red when it is clearly not.


there are levels in knowledge of boxing. it takes years, and some people never get there, to understand what styles, talents and size are, and how they mesh int he context of pfp fantasy fights. what's it going to look like when floyd fights ray leonard? if he can't outclass him and outbox him, he loses. if leonard's getting outboxed, like he was against hears, he can adjust where floyd cannot. that's a dimension floyd doesn't have, and it's something you clearly don't understand yet, whether it's because you're biased or ignorant.

[OnePunch]

They don't want him to fight Canelo because they know he'll beat him.

And, what's even worse, he'll beat him probably much more impressive than Floyd did.

The GGG hate on this forum has reached a psychotic level. He's new Floyd Mayweather of NSB.

not only that, Floyd had to drain Canelo with a catchweight, in a division that Floyd had previously won titles in twice before lol

[The Big Dunn]

Lol you make me laugh. It's the way you phrase it. Yes, it's a fact but the way you frame it makes it seem like that fact reflects badly on golovkin. The reality is sturm was too scared to fight him and forfeited. That reflects badly on him. I honestly don't see the relevance in even mentioning it. Winning a belt by forfeit is pretty impressive.

OK. as I explained to DreamerUSA my pointing this out was in response to posters who criticized Jacobs title defenses because he won a vacant belt. GGG didn't even win the belt, he got elevated.

It's not a criticism of him as much as it is pointing out reality when one of his bandwagon jumpers get out of hand.

Again, I don't see how its unfair.

[Lester Tutor]

The most laughable part is they're using Ward as if the guy really wanted the fight. There's ZERO evidence for it. There was a time when Team GG was actually despearate for fights and waiting for Ward's move. They got sick of his dilly dallying attitude.

No no no! The most laughable part is ''They'' (Sanchez & GGG) on some twilight zone campaign mentioning ''154-168'' was easy work during 2013, and hearing the silliest things as if ''they'' 'really wanted the fight.' There's 100% EVIDENCE for it. There was a time when HBO did a good job hyping up GGG's image. =P

[jqSide]

There's blatant bias. They don't even want him to fight Canelo because they think he's too inferior. Then they turn around and say Canelo is one of Floyd's best wins lol.

I'm absolutely certain that had Ward made a move and told ROC to make the fight at a time when Team GG was desperate for fights, the fight would have happened. Ward did nothing. Where was Ward before and after the Monroe fight? He's very much around blowing up smoke. ROC his new home was itching to make fights, any fight. Ward did nothing.

[The Big Dunn]

There's blatant bias. They don't even want him to fight Canelo because they think he's too inferior. Then they turn around and say Canelo is one of Floyd's best wins lol.

They don't want him to fight Canelo because they know he'll beat him.

And, what's even worse, he'll beat him probably much more impressive than Floyd did.

The GGG hate on this forum has reached a psychotic level. He's new Floyd Mayweather of NSB.

You sure it's this? I want him to fight Canelo-I just think Canelo has a few less riskier options that he can make big money fighting so GGG may find himself in the same position he's been in for some years.

I am tired of him beating huge underdogs. I'm surprised others are not as well given "no chance to win" has often been cited by NSB posters as the reason they do not like watching fights?.

[OnePunch]

OK. as I explained to DreamerUSA my pointing this out was in response to posters who criticized Jacobs title defenses because he won a vacant belt. GGG didn't even win the belt, he got elevated.

It's not a criticism of him as much as it is pointing out reality when one of his bandwagon jumpers get out of hand.

Again, I don't see how its unfair.

who exactly did that?