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  • #61
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
    If Golovkin could walk through LHW's, he wouldnt change the subject everytime Wards name is mentioned, and he would fight Lara in a heartbeat.
    Ward I get, but why do people perpetuate the myth that Golovkin is reluctant to fight Lara?

    Lara's problem is that he's not approved by HBO, just as Sergio Mora wasn't. Add Al PBC Haymon to the mix and it's a non-starter.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Weebler I View Post


      Murray doesn't have a solid chin?
      He has but the point of my comparison was that Kovalev drops people in the same fashion as GGG and he also KO-d, KD-d solid chinned guys but the important thing is he did it two weight classes above middleweight.
      I would be really-really surprised if in LHW Golovkin would be that same monster puncher what he is now. Or let alone in smw, though I think he will be obviously a strong puncher there too.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by PeasantCrusha View Post
        The very same " strange" punching power that Pacquiao had for a few years....
        Is GGG also afraid of needles?


        Do you affraid that that primadonna that have on that picture - lineal WBC champ is going to be ****d by GGG? Don't worry - it will never happen. Lineal WBC MW Champion wouldn't dare to defend his belt against de facto best MW. Too fragile.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
          Based on styles, GGG will not beat Andre Ward.

          Apparently, you heard it here first.

          Folks rate Kovalev against Ward mostly because of size/power..... forgetting that Ward won a gold medal at LHW, and due to his P4P style has no problems with larger opponents.

          They also forget that Ward would be a LHW when that fight rolls around.

          I give both GGG and Kovalev a very small chance of beating Ward.

          GGG, almost none, a small punchers chance. Kovalev has better length/style, but I havent seen anything from him to suggest that he could topple Ward, who is likely the most well-rounded fighter in the game today.

          There is a reason why Hopkins refused to fight Ward, but had no problem fighting Kovalev.
          It's not news to me, I think most people favor Ward against Golovkin.

          However those same people assume that Ward will be allowed to hit and hold etc, but if he isn't allowed by the assigned referee then that fight changes massively.

          Against Kovalev, Ward loses. Kovalev is too strong, hits too hard, boxes too well and doesn't accept a clinch. Also, the naturally bigger man.

          Ward likely never fights either, that's my belief.

          On Hopkins fighting Kovalev, he didn't want to initially, but Haymon did him dirty and left him without much choice.

          Originally posted by HEND View Post
          He has but the point of my comparison was that Kovalev drops people in the same fashion as GGG and he also KO-d, KD-d solid chinned guys but the important thing is he did it two weight classes above middleweight.

          I would be really-really surprised if in LHW Golovkin would be that same monster puncher what he is now. Or let alone in smw, though I think he will be obviously a strong puncher there too.
          I see what you're saying now.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Light_Speed View Post
            I think it's possible. Kovalev is more aggressive and puts his whole body behind almost all his shots, often throwing himself off balance, while GGG takes the time to set up his shots and maintains his balance. So Kovalev might get you out of there quicker, not necessarily because he has more power but because he fully commits more often.


            30 lbs is an exaggeration, he's probably about 15 lbs heavier. Cloud is on the record saying GGG has the power of a LHW, and CW Afolabi said GGG hurt him in sparring.


            BHop got dropped twice by Mercado at MW, and he got staggered by Echols in the first fight, also at MW.
            I know...but not with the FIRST solid shot though

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            • #66
              I don't buy it. Kovalev is being nice because he seems to really like GGG.

              In a real fight, I put all my money on Kovalev KOing GGG. Even if he has all this power, it is unlikely he walks through the punches he takes from Stevenson or Krusher.

              Let's be honest: among his biggest fans, GGG wins every fantasy match precisely because he is not tested. Froch? 2 rounds. Ward? 6 rounds. Krusher? sparring KO do. Mayweather? 1 round 1 punch.

              When the reality is that he is trying to fight Canelo and Cotto, and KO'ing guys like Geale and Monroe, and waiting for Chavez jr to fight him.

              There's the world of expectations and the world of reality: we don't know how good GGG really is. If he was this cyborg, he would be at 168 already. But he happens to be a really powerful, amazing MW, and we don't actually know how his power holds at higher weights or what he would do against truly elite opposition, and that's about it right now, no need to embellish.

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              • #67
                I do believe that Golovkin has more one-punch knockout power than Kovalev P4P. But not that he actually punches harder than Kovalev.

                But, thing is, Kovalev may look more powerful than he really is, mostly because he he has such fluidity with his punches and killer instinct. His combinations flow like very few fighters. So when he hurts someone most of the time is over.

                Golovkin is a more methodical and technical fighter, but his combinations are a little bit clumsier and easier do predict.

                But i do belive that Golovkin faced more fighters with proven good jaws. Murray, Ishida (he lost a decision against a heavyweight!), Rubio (took a lot of power from Lemieux and went on to stop de Canadian), and he usually or stops them or drops them in impressive fashion - see his knockout os Lujuan Simon and Ishida. But, then again, he's not the finisher that Kovalev is, so he can't always capitalize when he hurt someone like he did Monroe.

                I don't think Kovalev faced guys with proven chins (except Hopkins, whom he hurt but couldn't finish). Pascal doesn't really have a great chin, he's very gutsy, but he was hurt by Chad Dawson, Hopkins and Froch...

                So... Golovkin has more P4P one-punch ko power, but Kovalev is the better finisher.

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                • #68
                  Golovkin is a harder puncher in relation to others in his weight class, but Kovalev is obviously the harder puncher in gross terms. Let's not throw logic out the window just because Kovalev showed his friend some respect.

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                  • #69
                    It seems Kovalev is good boy too, Gennady teaches everybody up to 175 how to behave.

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                    • #70
                      I'll take kovalev's word for it

                      they sparred and everyone knows GGG put a hurt on

                      GGG is a monster. So is sergey but for a mw golovkin
                      is super strong. You can just see it

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