Originally posted by JasonBoxing
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Every year this poll must be done. Prime Lewis vs Wladimir.
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Originally posted by thebigkabosh View PostNeither guy crack my top 20 alltime tbh. Both had soft chins and overrated resumes. As it is if they fought I think Klit KOs Lewis. Harder,faster puncher and he throws far more straight shots to the target were Lewis would throw more hooks and uppercuts. He moves better too as Lewis' pseudonym is Lummox for a reason. I think Klit will land first and Lewis will wake up with a doctor waving a flashlight in his face.
Not a fight of great significance.
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Originally posted by JasonBoxing View PostYou went from saying he's a 'decent' HW to a top 10/12 heavyweight.
A 'decent' heavyweight is David Haye. If Lewis is a 'decent' Heavyweight. What is Alexander Povetkin? A nobody bum?
Also nobody ever calls Lewis the 'GOAT'. But to place him outside the top 10 is pathetic as well.
Just because Lewis ended the careers of guys like Golota/Grant/Ruddock didn't mean those weren't high touted fighters.
Lewis was a 50/50 against both Ruddock and Golota, which meant that public perception viewed those fights as legit toss ups. Lewis destroyed them. You can't go re write history and say they weren't great wins when at the time they were viewed as great challenges.
David Haye isn't a decent HW in terms of resume. Who did he beat? A 40yr old Barrett (gatekeeper), 40yr old Ruiz, 40 yr old Audley (Domestic level), Valuev - (worst HW world champion ever and he arguably lost that fight) was easily beaten by an almost 50yr old Holyfield and Chagaev. Chisora - Euro level at best never beaten anybody ranked I don't believe.
Povetkin is a decent HW by todays standards. Would he be a factor in other eras? Probably not no.
They was highly touted but like many other 'hypejobs' they went on to do nothing.
Its like how Lacy was supposed to murder Calzaghe now he (Joe) don't get no credit. I don't think bookies odds or how certain media defined a rather unknown, unproven/untested fighter at the time should carry into the future and add so much credibility. Bookmakers, media are wrong all the time. People are wrong all the time.
Many fighters look top prospects until they step up.
To me Golota, Ruddock, Grant and so on are guys who lost everytime they stepped up. Good enough for most part but not world beaters. Lewis has many, many better wins. Those do nothing for ranking him higher. Akinwande is another. He was probably near evens because he was undefeated and big but he'd never beaten anyone before or after and was struggling with fighters nowhere near world level like James Thunder.Last edited by dan_cov; 01-24-2015, 04:04 AM.
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Too bad Lewis didn't fight Wlad after he called him out at the Derrick Jefferson fight. Two whole years with a world title, waiting patiently by the phone for Lennox to call. Crickets.
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Originally posted by bmud reggin View PostWlad hits harder than anyone Lennox faced(and who has Lennox faced who wasn't past prime and faded?) and we know Lennox has a glass jaw(McCall and Rachman iced him with one punch). Wlad has never been iced.Last edited by joe strong; 01-24-2015, 08:11 AM.
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I think a better poll question would be:
Was this the year where Wlad knocked Lummox out of the top 10 all time HW?
I think 2014 was that year.
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Originally posted by BattlingNelson View PostI think a better poll question would be:
Was this the year where Wlad knocked Lummox out of the top 10 all time HW?
I think 2014 was that year.
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