Is Andre Ward still #P4P no.2???

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #121
    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
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    On this site they say Stevenson made 900,000 which is not hard to believe being they held it in his hometown..
    Is that all you have or do you have an actual credible source?

    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
    Ward can punch as well,hurt Kessler and Froch,and Dawson Chin has alway been in questioned..
    No he can't.

    Who has he ever dropped with a single punch?

    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
    Jones moved down to fight Tarver,and Mayweather made Alvarez move down to fight at a catch weight..If your saying something about this,then say it about any move to deal with fighters who are not fighting at their best weight..This is really the point,your view is your view..Just be consistent with it..
    How am I not being consistent?

    Canelo moved down 1 lb. Where have I discredited a fight where the fighter moved down 1 lb in weight?

    I'm discrediting a fight where the fighter moved down 7 lbs to a weight he hadn't been at in several years. Just like I do with Pacquaio-Oscar. Both cases of a fighter being badly drained.

    Looks pretty consistent to me.

    Jones did drop a lot of weight despite returning to a weight he'd been at recently and that weight drop likely did effect him anyway.

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    • Rome-By-Ko
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      #122
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      Is that all you have or do you have an actual credible source?



      No he can't.

      Who has he ever dropped with a single punch?



      How am I not being consistent?

      Canelo moved down 1 lb. Where have I discredited a fight where the fighter moved down 1 lb in weight?

      I'm discrediting a fight where the fighter moved down 7 lbs to a weight he hadn't been at in several years. Just like I do with Pacquaio-Oscar. Both cases of a fighter being badly drained.

      Looks pretty consistent to me.

      Jones did drop a lot of weight despite returning to a weight he'd been at recently and that weight drop likely did effect him anyway.
      Yea I looked all over and that's the only thing I found..I'm really interested to know what Dawson made in his fight with Stevenson..The crowd was big in that fight,so money was certainly made..

      Be consistent,if your discrediting Ward for weight..Then discredit anyone who does it..If not,then your logic is flawed...

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        #123
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        Again, the fact he signed his name is irrelevant.

        This is the only fact that counts to me..He signed his name,fights on..I'm not taking away from hard work from one fighter cause it suits me..That's complete bull****..If I'm gonna detract,I'm gonna detract from um all..

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          #124
          Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
          Yea I looked all over and that's the only thing I found..I'm really interested to know what Dawson made in his fight with Stevenson..The crowd was big in that fight,so money was certainly made..

          Be consistent,if your discrediting Ward for weight..Then discredit anyone who does it..If not,then your logic is flawed...
          I do discredit every fight were one of the fighters is drained.

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            #125
            Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
            This is the only fact that counts to me..He signed his name,fights on..I'm not taking away from hard work from one fighter cause it suits me..That's complete bull****..If I'm gonna detract,I'm gonna detract from um all..
            What does it have to do with suiting me?

            I'm stating a fact.

            Again I do detract from all cases of a drained fighter.

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              #126
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              I do discredit every fight were one of the fighters is drained.
              So you discredit Pac Cotto Mayweather Alvarez Tarver Jones??You discredit these fights right here??

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                #127
                Dan treating Rome like a punching bag here.


                Let me add that:

                1: the Draining of Dawson was a very heavy topic on this board. Everybody but Ward's stans could see what was happening.

                2: Trainer John Scully made quite a few posts subsequently about the goings on in Dawson's ***********al camp including the terrible time Dawson had with coming down. The weight simply did not go off as promised by Dawson's nutritionist.

                3: Dawson was manhandled by his sparringpartners that went public about it. Most famous was Edison Miranda who dropped Dawson hard.


                Now I'm gonna sit back and enjoy Rome's delusion while Dan swings in the same haymakers again and again and again.

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                  Dan treating Rome like a punching bag here.


                  Let me add that:

                  1: the Draining of Dawson was a very heavy topic on this board. Everybody but Ward's stans could see what was happening.

                  2: Trainer John Scully made quite a few posts subsequently about the goings on in Dawson's ***********al camp including the terrible time Dawson had with coming down. The weight simply did not go off as promised by Dawson's nutritionist.

                  3: Dawson was manhandled by his sparringpartners that went public about it. Most famous was Edison Miranda who dropped Dawson hard.


                  Now I'm gonna sit back and enjoy Rome's delusion while Dan swings in the same haymakers again and again and again.

                  Link,I'll wait..

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
                    So you discredit Pac Cotto Mayweather Alvarez Tarver Jones??You discredit these fights right here??
                    No because none of those fighters were drained except perhaps Roy Jones.

                    Pretty sure I've been over more than once why those scenario's are not the same.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
                      Link,I'll wait..
                      All of those he stated are true.

                      Denying Chad Dawson was drained against Ward is just plain silly.

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