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  • The Gambler1981
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    #311
    Originally posted by ADP02
    Floyd didn't want the fight. (see below) Any counter-offer by Manny's team always gets a negative reaction from Floyd's side. Why is that? Well, because Floyd and company was not interested in fighting Manny.


    Going by the below timeline, Floyd couldn't have fought Manny EVER!!!
    "I'm not interested in fighting Manny" - Floyd in 2010
    "Floyd needs a few tune-ups before taking on Manny" - Uncle Roger in 2011 (remember that Floyd fought only once in 2011 and once in 2012)
    "I'm not interested in fighting Manny" - Floyd in 2013/2014!



    REPORT States: Manny would agree to a 55/45 split in Floyd's favor and do random drug testing"

    Ellerbe responds "Manny can't tell Floyd SH$T!!!
    Manny has no say in the terms. Floyd will demand at least 60-40 if not more"

    http://www.boxingscene.com/ellerbe-m...her-sht--57376

    You would be making an awful lot out of some posturing~ instead of something that is actually meaningful

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    • Brandish
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      #312
      Originally posted by ADP02
      Floyd didn't want the fight. (see below) Any counter-offer by Manny's team always gets a negative reaction from Floyd's side. Why is that? Well, because Floyd and company was not interested in fighting Manny.


      Going by the below timeline, Floyd couldn't have fought Manny EVER!!!
      - "I'm not interested in fighting Manny" - Floyd in 2010
      - "Floyd needs a few tune-ups before taking on Manny" - Uncle Roger in 2011 (remember that Floyd fought only once in 2011 and once in 2012)
      - "I'm not interested in fighting Manny" - Floyd in 2013/2014!



      REPORT States: Manny would agree to a 55/45 split in Floyd's favor and do random drug testing"

      Ellerbe responds "Manny can't tell Floyd SH$T!!!
      Manny has no say in the terms. Floyd will demand at least 60-40 if not more"

      http://www.boxingscene.com/ellerbe-m...her-sht--57376
      floyd didn't want the fight but offered many 50/50.

      even roach said pac should have taken random ost. stop lying and saying floyd didn't want the fight when two offers were made and each rejected by team pac.

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      • gdghunter06
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        #313
        Goes like this Floyd blindsides Manny and team pacquiao with drug testing something that had never been brought up EVER by a boxer. This is after Manny Knocks out miguel cotto and before that Floyd Sr trained Ricky Hatton making floyd sr look ******. Also very interesting how Floyd likes to say Manny fights his leftovers FLOYD ANNOUNCED HIS COMEBACK FIGHT AGAINST JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ who manny had fought twice and also announced it the day before pacquiao vs hatton give me a freaking break!

        Manny is on top of the world he is the p4p best after beating cotto and floyd wants to throw allegations and drug testing into this. USADA doesnt just test for steroids they test for other things that many trainers and fighters do not know is banned. I am not saying that Manny was on anything but I think floyd wanted to make sure that even if manny tested positive for a banned substance ped's or even something that he would take in the Philippines the fight would be called off and Floyd would get out of it. Also on that same line of thinking why does Floyd get to dictate who does the testing with regards in choosing usada. It all smelled like Floyd wasnt worried about manny being on something but to just trash manny's name. Manny in the second round of negotiations says ok to drug testing except 14 days before the fight. DOES ANYONE REALLY THINK HE COULD GET UNSTOPABLE WITH 14 DAYS AND THEN A POST FIGHT DRUG TEST! it would still be in his system.
        Manny agreed to everything and even sent Konz to negotiate a fight but still gets a no from floyd. Oh and by the way Floyd did say no ppv or gate which is complete bs Because he has repeatedly stated that he offered manny a flat fee of 40 million 20 million that day and then 20 million at a later time in every interview he has stated this.

        Floyd is the only one saying no to a fight! if manny is so easy to beat why doesnt he just do it?

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        • Brandish
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          #314
          Originally posted by gdghunter06
          Goes like this Floyd blindsides Manny and team pacquiao with drug testing something that had never been brought up EVER by a boxer. This is after Manny Knocks out miguel cotto and before that Floyd Sr trained Ricky Hatton making floyd sr look ******. Also very interesting how Floyd likes to say Manny fights his leftovers FLOYD ANNOUNCED HIS COMEBACK FIGHT AGAINST JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ who manny had fought twice and also announced it the day before pacquiao vs hatton give me a freaking break!

          Manny is on top of the world he is the p4p best after beating cotto and floyd wants to throw allegations and drug testing into this. USADA doesnt just test for steroids they test for other things that many trainers and fighters do not know is banned. I am not saying that Manny was on anything but I think floyd wanted to make sure that even if manny tested positive for a banned substance ped's or even something that he would take in the Philippines the fight would be called off and Floyd would get out of it. Also on that same line of thinking why does Floyd get to dictate who does the testing with regards in choosing usada. It all smelled like Floyd wasnt worried about manny being on something but to just trash manny's name. Manny in the second round of negotiations says ok to drug testing except 14 days before the fight. DOES ANYONE REALLY THINK HE COULD GET UNSTOPABLE WITH 14 DAYS AND THEN A POST FIGHT DRUG TEST! it would still be in his system.
          Manny agreed to everything and even sent Konz to negotiate a fight but still gets a no from floyd. Oh and by the way Floyd did say no ppv or gate which is complete bs Because he has repeatedly stated that he offered manny a flat fee of 40 million 20 million that day and then 20 million at a later time in every interview he has stated this.

          Floyd is the only one saying no to a fight! if manny is so easy to beat why doesnt he just do it?
          floyd offered manny 50/50 in 2010 all he had to do was agree to random ost. the same test floyd would have to take.

          manny was on something so he had to turn down 50/50.

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            #315
            Originally posted by The Gambler1981
            You would be making an awful lot out of some posturing~ instead of something that is actually meaningful
            Hate when you are faced with the facts, .... got it!

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              #316
              Originally posted by Brandish
              floyd didn't want the fight but offered many 50/50.

              even roach said pac should have taken random ost. stop lying and saying floyd didn't want the fight when two offers were made and each rejected by team pac.
              Floyd also said "Manny you are NEXT" then "I NEVER said Manny is next"

              Facts are facts. Floyd kept on putting roadblocks ...... at least Roach can admit to when they were wrong. You Floyd fans can't even admit to the obvious!

              I pointed to where Floyd and his team said Floyd is not interested but Floyd fans don't believe Floyd

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                #317
                Originally posted by ADP02
                Hate when you are faced with the facts, .... got it!
                What you posted was just talk in the media, and talk is cheap. So come stronger if you want to show something.

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                  #318
                  Originally posted by ADP02
                  Floyd also said "Manny you are NEXT" then "I NEVER said Manny is next"

                  Facts are facts. Floyd kept on putting roadblocks ...... at least Roach can admit to when they were wrong. You Floyd fans can't even admit to the obvious!

                  I pointed to where Floyd and his team said Floyd is not interested but Floyd fans don't believe Floyd
                  the fact remains your hero turned down 50/50 in one of the biggest fights because he didn't want to do random ost. that is a fact.

                  sorry to bust your bubble kid, but manny ran from floyd and is still running today.

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                  • gdghunter06
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                    #319
                    Originally posted by Brandish
                    floyd offered manny 50/50 in 2010 all he had to do was agree to random ost. the same test floyd would have to take.

                    manny was on something so he had to turn down 50/50.
                    Got proof he was on something? Read my post again with what i said about Usada they test for stuff on a banned list! A list that up until that point was only used in the olympics for Floyd to just randomly say you have to do ost for the fight when there has never been proof of manny cheating is a slap in the face which is why manny sued him. Floyd Sr started this crap talking crazy and floyd jr used it to get out of the fight. Say for instance Manny got tested and he was found positive for a drug that was used for controlling a medical condition that no on knew manny had and doesnt do anything to increase performance but an ingredient is on the banned list just ONE ingredient. It violates mannys right to privacy.

                    Its 2014 not 2010 MANNY HAS AGREED TO EVERYTHING INCLUDING THE OST IT SHOULD BE AN EASY FIGHT FOR FLOYD RIGHT? NEW EXCUSE FIRE BOB ARUM!

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                    • ADP02
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                      #320
                      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                      What you posted was just talk in the media, and talk is cheap. So come stronger if you want to show something.
                      You said that Manny's team should counter Floyd's offers. I showed you that Floyd's team doesn't care for no counter-offers.

                      Floyd keeps on putting out videos stating "I'm not interested in fighting Manny"

                      So now you want us all to believe what Roach is telling us but not Floyd? Not Ellerbe? ...... Got it!

                      Floyd fans are incredible. Roach just put out a leaf and said both are to blame yet Floyd fans can't accept that their side is to blame.

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