40 million fair deal or a bad joke(debate)?

[The Gambler1981]

Well were discussing the actual offer, not some hypothetical one they could have bargained for. And the actual one was a laughter.

Put it this way. Floyd is saying heres 40m, split it with Arum. They split more than that for either Jmm 3and 4, same old fights nobody cared much about coming up. Stop playing ****** dude

The actual offer and only offer was the 40 million that was the only talk and one side hung up then got all hurt and offended instead of doing any due diligence to see if a better deal could have been worked out. You don't even get it, it is funny but it is rather sad we have been talking for hours and you are still stuck playing the victim Manny card instead of holding him any sort of accountable for that total lack of effort to do anything with that offer.

That second part I though we were discussing actual offers, not some hypotheticals, so wtf is that keep on task.

[HeroBando]

The actual offer and only offer was the 40 million that was the only talk and one side hung up then got all hurt and offended instead of doing any due diligence to see if a better deal could have been worked out.

That second part I though we were discussing actual offers, not some hypotheticals, so wtf is that keep on task.

Maybe youre not playing ****** after all. Theres nothing hypothetical about how much they split for the Jmm fights thicko.

So no kidding he hung up, weve established it was a laughable offer probably meant to insult and undermine the chances of the fight being made. Floyd offering a Jmm sized pot for the biggest fight of all time, gtfo

[The Gambler1981]

Maybe youre not playing ****** after all. Theres nothing hypothetical about how much they split for the Jmm fights thicko.

So no kidding he hung up, weve established it was a laughable offer probably meant to insult and undermine the chances of the fight being made. Floyd offering a Jmm sized pot for the biggest fight of all time, gtfo

WTF that is totally hypothetical because that is not real talk you are just making it up, they talked for a couple minutes and it didn't get very far with either side.



We have no established that, the only thing we have established is you just keep saying it acting like it is true and have no ability to hold Manny accountable or Top Rank for any of their actions. It was a fair offer more than Manny ever made and they didn't have the gumption to even come back to try and make the fight.


Why does this offer make you so upset~ it should have been a starting point but that attitude you have is exactly why nothing came of it. So I don't see how that is a positive way to look at it. Although since that is what Manny thinks, it is what you must think~ that is the law right.

[The Gambler1981]

YAY Manny way to do absolutely nothing when directly contacted with a major offer. Way to do nothing in terms of trying to make something happen~


What a ****ing great take

[NearHypnos]

first of all he didn't offer manny pacquiao the man 40 million because manny pacquiao is promoted by top rank. he can't just leave and accept any offer. he has a legal contract. so floyd offered top rank and manny pac 40 mill(over the phone very official) so then if you look at the numbers top rank usually makes over 40 million per pac fight so accepting less to do the biggest fight in boxing history doesn't make a lot of sense now does it? if you subtract top rank's usual cut pac wouldn't even make his biggest payday either. also the total amount generated for this fight would almost certainly exceed 200 million so 160 million to 40 million? is that really fair? does floyd generate 4 times as much as pac? no not even close. so no it wasn't a good offer. yes it was a joke to anyone who understands simple concepts, but it was a great offer for any simpleton who doesn't like to think.

Youre missin out the part of Top Rank literally doing nothing for the event. They werent going to promote this....floyd had the venue, date, promotion, etc. Why should the A side pay another promoter as if theyre the ones handling it? From what I recall Floyd offer Pac a guaranteed 40 directly.


Floyd also takes a LOT more than Pac does in terms of take home pay. Pac could generate billions but if hes only taking home 10 mil... Well... Business isn't that great if you're Pac.


The offer was fine. Pac would have gotten more than he did vs JMM and Bradley combind and wouldnt have had to get knocked out...


You're confusing an offer to TR as a company for one to Pac. In terms of the deal, hindsight being 20/20 and all, the offer was great for PAC. Not TR, but Pac.

[HeroBando]

Youre missin out the part of Top Rank literally doing nothing for the event. They werent going to promote this....floyd had the venue, date, promotion, etc. Why should the A side pay another promoter as if theyre the ones handling it? From what I recall Floyd offer Pac a guaranteed 40 directly.


Floyd also takes a LOT more than Pac does in terms of take home pay. Pac could generate billions but if hes only taking home 10 mil... Well... Business isn't that great if you're Pac.


The offer was fine. Pac would have gotten more than he did vs JMM and Bradley combind and wouldnt have had to get knocked out...


You're confusing an offer to TR as a company for one to Pac. In terms of the deal, hindsight being 20/20 and all, the offer was great for PAC. Not TR, but Pac.

No he wouldnt, jeez where do they find these people? He made 26m for Jmm, Bradley each. Hed make 29m with this deal once Arum got this minimum. Do you now see what a shameful proposal this was?

[The Gambler1981]

No he wouldnt, jeez where do they find these people? He made 26m for Jmm, Bradley each. Hed make 29m with this deal once Arum got this minimum. Do you now see what a shameful proposal this was?

You do know that is hypothetical right.

Your hypothesis is that Manny has to without fail pay Arum 27%, when you have no info other than a Floyd rant backing you up. Also you are assuming Arum is telling you the truth about what Manny makes.

So your whole take that is is not a good offer is totally hypothetical based on Arum speak~

[HeroBando]

WTF that is totally hypothetical because that is not real talk you are just making it up, they talked for a couple minutes and it didn't get very far with either side.



We have no established that, the only thing we have established is you just keep saying it acting like it is true and have no ability to hold Manny accountable or Top Rank for any of their actions. It was a fair offer more than Manny ever made and they didn't have the gumption to even come back to try and make the fight.


Why does this offer make you so upset~ it should have been a starting point but that attitude you have is exactly why nothing came of it. So I don't see how that is a positive way to look at it. Although since that is what Manny thinks, it is what you must think~ that is the law right.

It wasnt a fair offer you fcuking ******. The pot was smaller than for the Jmm fights. Thats ridiculous.

And theres nothing hypothetical about it, it was an actual offer. But if you think it was somehow hypothetical, why the fcuk are you doing damage control for 10 pages + in this thread?

[The Gambler1981]

It wasnt a fair offer you fcuking ******. The pot was smaller than for the Jmm fights. Thats ridiculous.

And theres nothing hypothetical about it, it was an actual offer. But if you think it was somehow hypothetical, why the fcuk are you doing damage control for 10 pages + in this thread?

Why so mad, about an offer that wasn't to you. It was a fair offer, based on his market value, I am sorry he did not have more value and I don't blame him for wanting more he probably could have got it with some effort on his sides part.

It is hypothetical because your theory is based on Manny is paying Arum 27%, which is a hypothesis which may be right or wrong but is not proven fact. The root word of hypothetical hypothesis~

[HeroBando]

Why so mad, about an offer that wasn't to you. It was a fair offer, based on his market value, I am sorry he did not have more value and I don't blame him for wanting more he probably could have got it with some effort on his sides part.

It is hypothetical because your theory is based on Manny is paying Arum 27%, which is a hypothesis which may be right or wrong but is not proven fact. The root word of hypothetical hypothesis~

Once again dumba$$ thats not his market value if he split at least that much for either Jmm 3 or 4. Those are much smaller fights hence his market value was much higher. Capiche? Somehow doubt it. Notice theres no 27% assumption above