40 million fair deal or a bad joke(debate)?

[Evol]

You said

why would somone cheat when he is willing to give blood right after the fight?? that would be a dumb ass move to juice up when u know u're being tested right after the fight, use common sense brah

that is the only reason why I mentioned it, because it shows through his actions that your statement could be easily refuted. It wasn't about bringing in his out of the ring life. Please, be an adult.

I prefaced everything by stating I in no way assume Manny was dirty. I also said Bero and Peterson shouldn't have been allowed to fight. what more do you want me to say?

maybe go on a peterson and betro thread or make one and complain about it like what u're doing here with manny? LOL!!

[JDD1]

so manny cheated on his wife before was this during a boxing match? LOL!!! was manny suppose to fight his wife and then he cheated on her?? what does that have anything to do with boxing?? again floyd has a longer rap sheet than pac but im not even gonna stood to ur level, by u bringing that into this already shows u aint got nothing strong as ur defense agrument LOL!!!!

You brought up manny's integrity as a reason he would be ****** to cheat using PED's for his fights knowing testing was coming, I brought it up only to refute your point, it wasn't to bash Manny. Its as if you want me to just agree with the point you made without question.

maybe go on a peterson and betro thread or make one and complain about it like what u're doing here with manny? LOL!!

WHat? you truly are a child, I prefaced my post by saying in no way does my point suggest Manny used Ped's. You brought up berto and petersen in response and I not only agreed with you but said they shouldn't have been allowed to fight.

Man, grow up.

[Evol]

You brought up manny's integrity as a reason he would be ****** to cheat using PED's for his fights knowing testing was coming, I brought it up only to refute your point, it wasn't to bash Manny. Its as if you want me to just agree with the point you made without question.



WHat? you truly are a child, I prefaced my post by saying in no way does my point suggest Manny used Ped's. You brought up berto and petersen in response and I not only agreed with you but said they shouldn't have been allowed to fight.

Man, grow up.

JDD aka big dunn, floyd once said and yes manny pacquiao u're next then the next day i only said that because thats what the fans wanted to hear.. how do we know floyd is being serious about the $40mil offer?? what if he's just saying that becasue thats what the fans wanted to hear? LMAO!!!!

[JDD1]

JDD aka big dunn, floyd once said and yes manny pacquiao u're next then the next day i only said that because thats what the fans wanted to hear.. how do we know floyd is being serious about the $40mil offer?? what if he's just saying that becasue thats what the fans wanted to hear? LMAO!!!!

huh? Ok add him to the list. ive been called him, gambler, and stax.

I only responded to the cutoff post. It was not my intention to get this deep into it.

I made a post about what I thought about the offer. check for it.

[Francis M.]

The fighter don't split the gross~ or total revenue they get about half and half of 200 would be 100~

Any more smart questions?

We'll yes, you're talking about local ppv money. You forget the international broadcasting rights, sight fee, sponsor money, etc, etc........

You're trying to make it seem like $40 mil to top rank is a viable option. Floyd is in the promotional business and he knew that PAC was talking to him in behalf on himself and toprank. You seemed well verse in ppv gross and the details of the boxing business but refuse to acknowledge that the $40 mil would not go 100% to pac because of his contractual obligations.

[The Gambler1981]

We'll yes, you're talking about local ppv money. You forget the international broadcasting rights, sight fee, sponsor money, etc, etc........

You're trying to make it seem like $40 mil to top rank is a viable option. Floyd is in the promotional business and he knew that PAC was talking to him in behalf on himself and toprank. You seemed well verse in ppv gross and the details of the boxing business but refuse to acknowledge that the $40 mil would not go 100% to pac because of his contractual obligations.

No I was talking about total revenue, and then what the fighters split including all the costs that get taken off the top~ and like I said it was rough but give the general idea.

Manny doesn't get 100% now, so while that 40 million would become less that is nothing new with the only possible exception of paying Top Rank off which would be expensive but Manny could have stood up to them and forced them to deal I am sure they would oblige him because he is pretty important.

[mourinho1]

JDD aka big dunn, floyd once said and yes manny pacquiao u're next then the next day i only said that because thats what the fans wanted to hear.. how do we know floyd is being serious about the $40mil offer?? what if he's just saying that becasue thats what the fans wanted to hear? LMAO!!!!

You are biggest troll ever. He also added that he would wire half within 48 hours if im correct. Manny believes him, 50 believes him, Ariza believes him. There is no point in talking about this issue IMO.

FMJ has proven that he is willing to take real innitiative pro-active to come to a deal. Maybe you should list ones again all pac's real attemps and offers. Not the BS in the media for his fans to believe...
Manny was/is an entertaining fighter maybe more entertaining than FMJ, but he doesnt seem to care to make the fight happen. This will be proven when he extends his contracts without talking/considering about making the fight when he is a free agent...

Proof will come within a year that Manny is the one who isnt about the fight.

To be completely honest if it will happen it will probably be manny's(read FMJ's) last fight that he eventually will agree to make the fight. all the other talk before that time is to hype his own matches.

[big_james10]

Does anyone on this message board actually believe that Manny Pacquaio has received 50 percent of the net revenue of any fight in which he has fough?

Is anyone on this board actually ****** enough to think that Bob Arum (who claims he guarantees Pacquaio $20 million per fight) actually gives Manny Pacquaio 50 percent of the revenue from the fights that Arum promotes?

If you are ****** enough to believe this, I have a bridge I want to sell you. Pacquaio has never been guaranteed more than $8 million in a fight and has never made more than $20 million in a fight and that $20 million is nowhere near 50 percent of the revenue. Yet, when Mayweather called to offer him a fight with a $40 million guarantee (for Pac alone, not Arum), Pac asks for 50 percent of the revenue when he has probably never received more than 30 percent of the net revenue from Bob Arum.

So, basically, Pac is allowing Arum to rip him off left and right and pay him less than what he should be getting paid, but he demands half of everything from Mayweather, and people on this board think that this makes sense.

To answer your question, the joke is not the offer Mayweather made to Pacquaio. The joke is Pacquaio himself for being ****** enough to trust Arum and turn down more money for one fight than he has ever made and will likely make for the rest of his career.


Unfortunately, Pacquaio won't realize this until five years after his career is over and he is broke and looking for some publisher to pay him for a tell-all book about Arum and Top Rank.

[Jewel]

Does anyone on this message board actually believe that Manny Pacquaio has received 50 percent of the net revenue of any fight in which he has fough?

Is anyone on this board actually ****** enough to think that Bob Arum (who claims he guarantees Pacquaio $20 million per fight) actually gives Manny Pacquaio 50 percent of the revenue from the fights that Arum promotes?

If you are ****** enough to believe this, I have a bridge I want to sell you. Pacquaio has never been guaranteed more than $8 million in a fight and has never made more than $20 million in a fight and that $20 million is nowhere near 50 percent of the revenue. Yet, when Mayweather called to offer him a fight with a $40 million guarantee (for Pac alone, not Arum), Pac asks for 50 percent of the revenue when he has probably never received more than 30 percent of the net revenue from Bob Arum.

So, basically, Pac is allowing Arum to rip him off left and right and pay him less than what he should be getting paid, but he demands half of everything from Mayweather, and people on this board think that this makes sense.

To answer your question, the joke is not the offer Mayweather made to Pacquaio. The joke is Pacquaio himself for being ****** enough to trust Arum and turn down more money for one fight than he has ever made and will likely make for the rest of his career.

I'm highly interested in this bridge your selling. At this very moment, I can wire you more money than you've ever seen in your life. However, there is one prerequisite; I would like for you to jump off this bridge face-first until you rid yourself of this "You Go Girl" attitude, no matter how many times you fail, until you wholeheartedly reconsider insulting another man's intelligence.

Just because something as a whole seems out of reach to one person doesn't grant others the right to manipulate them.

[jcpryor]

no.. quick question yes or no... do u think its suspect that a fighter would asked for ost for a guy who he says is easy work and one dimensional?

Thats exactly what I thought you would say lol. And no its not suspect. It would be suspect if Mayweather didn't do the tests himself, though. Personally I think its suspect when someone refuses to do blood tests, and uses the fear of needles and getting weak after drawing blood as an excuse for not wanting to do it...but to each his own.

I wonder how you'd feel if Mayweather was the one that turned down a fight because he didn't want to do blood tests?