40 million fair deal or a bad joke(debate)?

[al-Xander]

Floyd no longer demands testing like he used to. He rejected all of Pacman's cut-off compromises, yet he got 19 days cut off in the Mosley fight, then 18 days in the Ortiz fight.

These are both well-publicized because Roidweather's cleaning crusade was still fresh at that time. Then starting from Cotto, the testing procedures supposedly conducted by USADA were kept secret. This from a guy who is supposed to be a sport cleaner and people expected transparency. We have zero details in the Maidana/Floyd fight. None, nada, nothing. Same thing with the Guerrero fight. hehe...

He rejected Pacman's offer of 3 blood tests and unlimited urine, which were above and beyond most so-called VADA testing that takes only one blood test. Berto and Peterson were caught via urine samples taken close to 3 months before their respective fights.

Money Mayweather is a complete and utter joke. hehe...

Mayweather is a bad joke to boxing. But I'd like him to stay that way, stick to his ducking ways. Can't wait to see him retire being confirmed the biggest joke in boxing.

How many fights is he left with, btw, after the Madonna fight?

[Francis M.]

It makes me laugh when people say 40 million is 0% where the **** do you think that money comes from~ even if fronted that money is coming out of the event so that would not be getting 0% of the revenue it would be getting a fixed amount that is a smaller percentage as the fight makes more money but would never reach 0%. Learn some ****ing math~

Now how much was the fight worth, I saw someone say 10 times 40 million which would be 400, if it did that good that would not be a good deal for Manny but look at the highest grossing fight revenue of all time which are like 200 million, under that scenario Manny likely would be pulling 40% with his 40 million check which isn't that bad. So if the fight blows the biggest all time revenues out of the water it is bad deal, if it equals them or does less it would be just fine, if it does a bit better it would be kind of bad but not horrible.


This all could have been solved with more negotiation (with people who actually do this stuff for a living not two fighters whom barely speak English) though as opposed to walking away and crying about how the offer offended him, maybe if someone actually ever held him accountable he would do it differently.

Your math is a little off. 40mil is only 20% of 200mil.

[The Gambler1981]

Your math is a little off. 40mil is only 20% of 200mil.

The fighter don't split the gross~ or total revenue they get about half and half of 200 would be 100~

Any more smart questions?

[JaYDeuce11]

When offered that in begginning of 2012, it was an insult, but right after Pac has been on a downward spiral, while Floyd has monumentally risen. It was fair back then to say 55-45 for floyd or for the winner...but now Manny dont deserve 50/50.
His PPVs have dropped dramatically, his clothing brand no longer in stores, and lost at lesat 2 out of his last 5 fights , while Floyd has looked strong after the Cotto fight in embarassing Guerrero and Canelo coming off huge wins/confident

Right now i think it should be at least 60/40 for FLoyd! thats how far Pacs stock has fallen. even after the bradley win. due to his performance too. if Pac dont accept 60/40 split if may EVER offers it , then you can say he ducking, cuz i think he knows hes not at the top p4p right now anymore so no pull

[mourinho1]

The fighter don't split the gross~ or total revenue they get about half and half of 200 would be 100~

Any more smart questions?

Good comment it seems. I know with PPV the cable companies etc take 50% of every PPV buy. This is a fact. so i kinda understand how you make 200 into 100, with that logic. good post.

[The Gambler1981]

Good comment it seems. I know with PPV the cable companies etc take 50% of every PPV buy. This is a fact. so i kinda understand how you make 200 into 100, with that logic. good post.

It is kind of rough, but it gives the general idea of what they are messing with.

[BIGBOXINGFAN]

It crazy how all these Internet Promoters feel Manny should get a bigger piece of the pie when 40 million is more money than he has ever made in one night.

He hasn't been close to that number as far as purses are concerned.

Thats why Top Rank only guarantees Pac 6 million on all of his fight contracts which are filed by the the commission.

If Manny was consistently making the 25 - 30 million or so that Bob keeps telling the media Pac is making........based off of added PPV $$$$$

And if Manny was really doing the same kind of PPV numbers that Floyd does.......

And if Manny really is an equal to Floyd when it comes to being the cash cow in the sport like many of you claim.......

Then tell me why doesn't Bob increase Manny's guarantees?

Why would Manny resign with Bob under the same terms and not ask for the same amount of money that MONEY himself is making?

Ask yourself this..... who needs who?

The guy having major financial and tax problems in two countries or the guy who just got a 250 million contract with SHO and just made 80 million his last fight?

If I was a real fan of Manny's I would tell him to take the 40 million and run.
Not turn it down, cry over a PPV %, and go back to fighting tough guys for 6 million.

[maguirre]

Mayweather is a bad joke to boxing. But I'd like him to stay that way, stick to his ducking ways. Can't wait to see him retire being confirmed the biggest joke in boxing.

How many fights is he left with, btw, after the Madonna fight?

Two to three fights left. And I can see Khan, Garcia and possibly Porter in there.

I'm not even reading any of the rest of the posts here. They're all the same posts posted four years ago coming from Floyd fanatics. What is amazing is that they still don't realize that the biggest loser when it comes to legacy is their idol. He already ended up becoming the laughing stock of the world. Damage has been done. Repairing the damage don't seem to be of any interest to his fanbase: Pac has to do this and that, he needs to bow down to the almighty Floyd, he needs to do that and this... hehe... same old story.

[JustinFloyd]

The fighter don't split the gross~ or total revenue they get about half and half of 200 would be 100~

Any more smart questions?

so which is bigger, $40M or $50M?

[The Gambler1981]

so which is bigger, $40M or $50M?

What are you referring to Arum's offer through the media which he said while laughing?

Floyd was the a-side he would be the shot caller, and Floyd has made closer to 50 per fight since than Manny has made in comparison to 40. Opportunity cost, the cost of choosing the next best option so while 50 might be greater than 40, who lost more.