What makes Hagler greater than De La Hoya??

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  • ramses07
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    #61
    Originally posted by 4Corners
    I wouldn't say blatant robbery, though I remember thinking Oscar had that fight for sure. I don't think it was the level of Pac-Bradley or something like Lara-Williams where I struggled to give the winner more then a round or two. But granted Oscar probably deserved one of the Mosley fights, you could then take off Whitaker and Sturm from his record as well.
    sturm fight was a robbery, whitaker could've gone either way.

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    • RubenSonny
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      #62
      Originally posted by joseph5620
      Hagler had KO power with either hand and developed legitimate punches from both sides. Oscar did not have much of a right hand at all and really didn't use much of it until Floyd Mayweather Sr started training him. That ends the technique debate.
      Was a great inside fighter too, not only did he have a better jab he used it to actually set up a lot of other punches, something RuPaul couldn't do.

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      • The Gambler1981
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        #63
        Originally posted by Holywarrior
        It was decent, but when you start listing Watts and Hamsho I know you're reaching for stars. That'd be like me reaching for Castijello and Rivera for De La Hoya's resume

        but at least he moved up to fight those guys.
        You don't have to move up, you can be great dominating a class and Hagler did just that and beat pretty much everyone around at 160.

        Monroe and Watts would easily be belt holders in today's world and Hagler kept a lot of guys down who were very good fighter who would otherwise have been better known. I know by how you are treating them you don't know them to any real degree~


        Castillejo is one of Oscar's better wins really~

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          #64
          Originally posted by Holywarrior
          Whitaker the top guy in the division and P4P #1/2 isn't a credible fight

          Did Whitaker look declined? He didn't fight like it.
          You obviously were not following his career. And stop lying about Whitaker's pound for pound ranking at the time. Both Trinidad and Quartey were considered to be more dangerous during that period.

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          • Holywarrior
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            #65
            Originally posted by bluebeam
            being champ for almost a decade while defeating hall of fame fighters make's you overrated? hagler would walk through every middleweight in the world today, just like he did 30 years ago
            And Delahoya would walk through every lightweight today what point is this

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              #66
              Originally posted by RubenSonny
              Was a great inside fighter too, not only did he have a better jab he used it to actually set up a lot of other punches, something RuPaul couldn't do.
              Yes, the inside fighting of Hagler was also far superior to Delahoya.

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                #67
                Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                Minter, Mugabi, Hearns, Hamsho X2, Roldan, Antuofuermo, Monroe, Watts I will take that all day over Oscars best wins.

                Ray Leonard is also better than any of the guys who beat Oscar~ by a margin


                i agree with you on hagler's resume, but that version of ray leonard that beat hagler wouldnt have beat floyd,manny, or the mosley from the first oscar fight

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                • Holywarrior
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by joseph5620
                  You obviously were not following his career. And stop lying about Whitaker's pound for pound ranking at the time. Both Trinidad and Quartey were considered to be more dangerous during that period.
                  Show me a source because when that fight was signed I coulda swore Pea was #2.

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                  • 4Corners
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Holywarrior
                    And Delahoya would walk through every lightweight today what point is this
                    Did De La Hoya run through Lightweight in the 90's though??? No he beat like two guys in the Top 10 there, but Ruelas was a good win for sure.

                    Oscar never dominated a weight class the way Hagler did 160, and Hagler won his biggest fights minus the Leonard fight. Hearns was better then every single Oscar win, and they both have around the same number of quality/decent/solid wins.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by buckfangs
                      lol best day of your life was making $40
                      Yeah it was hilarious how it went down.

                      Kid was talking crap all week on how he was gonna take my money lol To see the look on his face when they announced the winner was priceless

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