Is Danny Garcias resume now better then Hattons?

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  • LacedUp
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    #81
    Originally posted by Earl Hickey
    I think it is

    Hattons resume is very poor

    Tszyu who while a great fighter WAS at the tail end of his career giving up all the advantages, still a solid B+ win

    Then whos next?

    Paulie? Urango?
    Paulie (world champion), Urango (world champion), Carlos Moussa (world champion), Luiz Collazo (world champion in another weightclass), Jose Luis Castillo.

    Garcia clearly doesn't have this kind of depth on his resume so far.

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    • prinzemanspopa
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      #82
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      This was my first thought too.

      Hatton has more wins and more better wins. Khan and Matthysse are good wins, but are they better wins than Tszuy, Malignaggi, Castillo, Urango etc? No.

      So he's still got some time to go, but it's possible.



      Did you seriously just claim that Malignaggi was a better win for Hatton than Khan was for Garcia? The same Malignaggi who was completely dominated by Khan just a year and a half after Hatton dealt with him?


      Khan and Matthysse are far more significant wins than anything Hatton has outside of Tszyu and possibly Castillo.

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      • dan_cov
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        #83
        I think it comes down to how you rate the Tyszu win. I feel a lot underrate it but then some overrate it based on name value.

        If you're naming Maussa & Urangu then you probably should be giving Garcia credit for Holt & Campbell.

        I've gotta go with Garcia by a whisker.

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        • NEETzsche
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          #84
          Originally posted by prinzemanspopa
          Did you seriously just claim that Malignaggi was a better win for Hatton than Khan was for Garcia? The same Malignaggi who was completely dominated by Khan just a year and a half after Hatton dealt with him?


          Khan and Matthysse are far more significant wins than anything Hatton has outside of Tszyu and possibly Castillo.
          the castillo win was utterly meaningless

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            #85
            Originally posted by pigsfly
            mitchell is and will always be a c level win.........lamont peterson is a better win.


            Lamont PEDerson has never done anything except get a drug induced robbery over Amir Khan

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            • check hook
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              #86
              Originally posted by Money Team.
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              Let's just get something straight. Hatton at 140 is > than everyone at 140 right now. This is a ****** question. The guys who campaigned at 140 recently are better than this crop. A shop worn and way out of his prime Judah barely lost to Mattysse (even though he got a decision).

              The likes of Kostya, Hatton, Zab, Cotto at 140 are better than Matthysse and Garcia. Hell a prime Sharmba Mitchell i'd back against both Garcia anf Mattysee, he would fundamentally out box them.

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              • LacedUp
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                #87
                Originally posted by prinzemanspopa
                Did you seriously just claim that Malignaggi was a better win for Hatton than Khan was for Garcia? The same Malignaggi who was completely dominated by Khan just a year and a half after Hatton dealt with him?


                Khan and Matthysse are far more significant wins than anything Hatton has outside of Tszyu and possibly Castillo.
                No that is not what I claimed.

                I meant his resume as a whole is stronger than Garcia's. And I see Khan and Matthysse as the two best wins, and the only top wins on Garcia's resume.

                Are they (together) better than Tszuy, Malignaggi, Castillo, Collazo, Urango, etc.

                No they are not.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by dan_cov
                  I think it comes down to how you rate the Tyszu win. I feel a lot underrate it but then some overrate it based on name value.

                  If you're naming Maussa & Urangu then you probably should be giving Garcia credit for Holt & Campbell.

                  I've gotta go with Garcia by a whisker.
                  So you are going against two world champions for a guy with 4 losses and no belt, and a guy with 7 losses and no belt.

                  That's just insane. Maussa (2 losses) and Urango (undefeated) are clearly wins on an entirely different levels than gatekeepers Campbell and Holt.

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    No that is not what I claimed.

                    I meant his resume as a whole is stronger than Garcia's. And I see Khan and Matthysse as the two best wins, and the only top wins on Garcia's resume.

                    Are they (together) better than Tszuy, Malignaggi, Castillo, Collazo, Urango, etc.

                    No they are not.
                    I don't understand why Castillo and Urango are being included for Hatton but Judah, Morales, Holt etc aren't being included for Danny?

                    They're at the very least on the same level

                    Judah and Collazo are atleast the same level.

                    Morales and Castillo are atleast the same level.

                    Urango and Holt are not far apart.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      So you are going against two world champions for a guy with 4 losses and no belt, and a guy with 7 losses and no belt.

                      That's just insane. Maussa (2 losses) and Urango (undefeated) are clearly wins on an entirely different levels than gatekeepers Campbell and Holt.
                      Maussa is on a different level to Holt? How????

                      Those 4 fighters are all around the same level especially Maussa.

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