Miguel Cotto's opponents

[BoxingGenius27]

Why would Floyd have fought Williams in 2012 when he fought Cotto???

Martinez is also a Middleweight man, maybe the question you should be asking is why can't Sergio seem to fight the fights at 160 we want, as of late???

I'm not saying Cotto should have fought this guy or that guy, I'm saying his wins are weak given the hype he got. Good god, it's like talking to a child.

So if there was no one else to fight at the time to change anyone's mind, you're in agreement that his resume is pretty weak given his hype??? Good talk, we agree.

I'm not saying fight Williams in 12. I'm saying fight Williams instead of Hatton. Or maybe fight Williams instead of Marquez. Was Williams with Top Rank?

Martinez was willing to drop to 154 to fight Floyd. But you're saying it's ok for Floyd to pull guys up from 135, but guys can't drop from 160 to 154 to fight him?

You're clearly biased and all your post here aren't about Cotto, but actually comparing Cotto to Floyd when no one is even trying to compare the two. That's crap.

You need to take your problems up with whoever you're talking about that had the double standards, specifically.

[BoxingGenius27]

But Cotto gets hype as one of this era's greatest fighters,

Because he was numbnuts.

Do you really want me to chew through Castillo and Corrales' resume? Anyone can do that to anyone.

I mean what you're doing here has boxrec written all over it. It really does

[4Corners]

I'm not saying fight Williams in 12. I'm saying fight Williams instead of Hatton. Or maybe fight Williams instead of Marquez. Was Williams with Top Rank?

Martinez was willing to drop to 154 to fight Floyd. But you're saying it's ok for Floyd to pull guys up from 135, but guys can't drop from 160 to 154 to fight him?

You're clearly biased and all your post here aren't about Cotto, but actually comparing Cotto to Floyd when no one is even trying to compare the two. That's crap.

You need to take your problems up with whoever you're talking about that had the double standards, specifically.

I'm saying in general man. There's Cotto stans on here who call this guy a good win for him, but the same level guy a cherry pick for pacquiao or Mayweather. That's interesting.

I hated the Marquez fight in 2009, I didn't even give Floyd the slightest amount of credit for that fight until Marquez went up and arguably beat Pacquiao twice at the weight. That was a "cherry pick", he should have fought Mosley in September 09', but he fought him right after when everyone wanted him to anyways.

[4Corners]

Because he was numbnuts.

Do you really want me to chew through Castillo and Corrales' resume? Anyone can do that to anyone.

I mean what you're doing here has boxrec written all over it. It really does

If you count Castillo beating Mayweather, most felt he won the first fight, it's not even close. But I'll give Cotto having better wins than Corrales, though it's fairly close.

[4Corners]

So when ever someone says this guys wins aren't really that great, it's boxrec. Good to know.

[BoxingGenius27]

Mayweather wasn't considered elite until after Oscar, really??? He was a Top 10 P4P fighter since 1998.

That's because his talent was there. Hell, we knew that since the Olympics. Fact is, he was still fighting guys like Sharmba Mitchell, Brueseles and Gatti.

The talent has always been there. But Floyd was not considered an elite Welterweight until the DLH fight even though he beat him at JMW. That's what really made him mainstream and put him on the map.

Tell me this, what WW's did Floyd beat to make him an elite WW from 2005-2007? I can't even say 08 cause he didn't fight.

I'll wait. I'd love to hear all these elite level WW's he beat

[HeroBando]

Only reason anyone was picking Foreman was either A: They're delusional Cotto haters or B: They thought Cotto might not comeback a decent fighter after taking the Pacquiao beating.

Man I said Quintana was an average win, it was. He was barely ranked at 147 at the time, simply because he beat a prospect in Julio at the time. Great win I guess.

Like I said, when you have to start grasping for Quintana, Paulie, and Foreman as some of his Top 5 wins, you know a resume is weak given the hype Cotto got.

That's fine, unless you're boosting Julio Diaz and Lazcano as better than average wins, as you did in this thread. That betrays an agenda, wonder what it is.

[BoxingGenius27]

So when ever someone says this guys wins aren't really that great, it's boxrec. Good to know.

The thing with you is you describe rankings from 10+ years ago. I mean "exact" rankings. Do you really want me to dig up your post history?

You're a numbers guy. Anyone that can recall exact ranking from years and I mean years ago of guys who were ranked #8 by the WBC either has the memory of a fcukin genius or you're constantly using boxrec. Either or.

I can't even remember the exact ranking from last month, let alone 10 fcuking years ago, but you always just happen to know them to a T.

Don't try to bullschit me man. Just be honest

This is cray

[IronDanHamza]

That's because his talent was there. Hell, we knew that since the Olympics. Fact is, he was still fighting guys like Sharmba Mitchell, Brueseles and Gatti.

The talent has always been there. But Floyd was not considered an elite Welterweight until the DLH fight even though he beat him at JMW. That's what really made him mainstream and put him on the map.

Tell me this, what WW's did Floyd beat to make him an elite WW from 2005-2007? I can't even say 08 cause he didn't fight.

I'll wait. I'd love to hear all these elite level WW's he beat

He wasn't a PPV star until after the Oscar fight but in terms of being considered "elite", I think, going off memory, that he was the universal P4P #1 in either 04 or 05. Latest 05, definitely by the time of the Gatti fight atleast.

[Madjab]

Mayweather was fighter of the year in 98. Yet he wasn't elite yet? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills since I joined this forum