Miguel Cotto's opponents

[Madjab]

Floyd didn't fight not one guy on your list that you're asking Cotto to fight though, except for Hatton a few months before he was "SUPPOSED" to fight Cotto. Why didn't Floyd or anyone else for that matter fight all these guys you're saying Cotto should've fought?

Floyd fought once a year for almost the last 5-6 years in which he didn't even fight in 08. While you're holding Cotto to these ridiculously high standards, he was getting his brains beat out by plasterman while Floyd was chillin in the Ba***** sippin dacqueries.

Just be consistent 4Corners. You can't re-write history.

That's like me saying, "why didn't Floyd fight Williams instead of a blown up Marquez"?

Hell, I can go a step further and say why didn't Floyd fight all the JMW's you mentioned instead of fighting the "slightly above average Cotto" as you put it?

Why not fight Martinez who offered to fight him at 154 countless times instead of fighting a 4 year past prime Cotto who hasn't been the same since Plasterman got a hold of him in 08?

See what I did there? See how easy that was?

That's bullschit logic, but that's the logic you're using.

Just stop

The thing is Mayweather already has the clottey's and malignaggis of the world on his resume at 130 and 135. He travelled through more weights

[4Corners]

Floyd didn't fight not one guy on your list that you're asking Cotto to fight though, except for Hatton a few months before he was "SUPPOSED" to fight Cotto. Why didn't Floyd or anyone else for that matter fight all these guys you're saying Cotto should've fought?

Floyd fought once a year for almost the last 5-6 years in which he didn't even fight in 08. While you're holding Cotto to these ridiculously high standards, he was getting his brains beat out by plasterman while Floyd was chillin in the Ba***** sippin dacqueries.

Just be consistent 4Corners. You can't re-write history.

That's like me saying, "why didn't Floyd fight Williams instead of a blown up Marquez"?

Hell, I can go a step further and say why didn't Floyd fight all the JMW's you mentioned instead of fighting the "slightly above average Cotto" as you put it?

Why not fight Martinez who offered to fight him at 154 countless times instead of fighting a 4 year past prime Cotto who hasn't been the same since Plasterman got a hold of him in 08?

See what I did there? See how easy that was?

That's bullschit logic, but that's the logic you're using.

Just stop

C'mon man, I'm not saying Cotto should have had to fight this guy or that guy, I'm saying when you take a look at all his wins, he has 3 wins above average. What's so hard to understand???

Cotto didn't duck anyone but it doesn't stop his resume from being relatively weak.

I called Cotto slightly above average??? No, I've always said Cotto was a good fighter, who's resume doesn't live up to the hype he got.

Oh and in 2009 Paul Williams had already made his way beyond Welterweight, and was prepping to fight Pavlik for the Middleweight title by Fall 09'. I'm just saying. I wanted to see Mayweather-Williams at one point in time though.

[BoxingGenius27]

Matter of fact 4Corners, while we're at it, tell me why Floyd only fought 1 WW on this list when the division was at it's peak between 06-08 and I'm not even counting Pac and DLH because they weren't around then at WW:

Cintron
Marg
Williams
Mosley
Cotto
Quintana
Baldomir
Hatton
Clottey


Cotto fought 3 with honorable mention going to Clottey in 09 who was soundly beating Margarito at his peak before he broke his hand.

Wanna know what Floyd did in that time span? Fought Hatton coming up from 140. Fought Marquez coming up from 135. And fought Baldomir's who's sole claim to fame was Judah (same guy u schit on) and Gatti. That's it.

See how easy that was 4Corners?

This is the logic you use.

[BoxingGenius27]

C'mon man, I'm not saying Cotto should have had to fight this guy or that guy, I'm saying when you take a look at all his wins, he has 3 wins above average. What's so hard to understand???

Cotto didn't duck anyone but it doesn't stop his resume from being relatively weak.

I called Cotto slightly above average??? No, I've always said Cotto was a good fighter, who's resume doesn't live up to the hype he got.

What I'm telling you is, there was NO ONE HE COULD'VE FOUGHT AT THE TIME TO CHANGE YOUR MIND.

I had to put it in CAPS so you can understand.

Floyd didn't fight not 1 guy, except for Ricky Hatton, that you're asking Cotto to fight. Not 1.

In fact, Floyd didn't even fight 1 guy that Cotto did beat 08 and prior. The 3 that he did fight (Corley, Sosa, and Judah), Cotto stopped them all, while floyd UD'd them.

Why did Floyd fight over the hill Cotto instead of Lara, Kirkland, Williams, Martinez, ect?

See how easy that was.

Just stop man. Your double standards, flip flopping and what not is ridiculous

[4Corners]

Matter of fact 4Corners, while we're at it, tell me why Floyd only fought 1 WW on this list when the division was at it's peak between 06-08 and I'm not even counting Pac and DLH because they weren't around then:

Cintron
Marg
Williams
Mosley
Cotto
Quintana
Baldomir
Hatton
Clottey
Mayweather

Cotto fought 3 with honorable mention going to Clottey in 09 who was soundly beating Margarito at his peak before he broke his hand.

Wanna know what Floyd did in that time span? Fought Hatton coming up from 140. Fought Marquez coming up from 135. And fought Baldomir's who's sole claim to fame was Judah (same guy u schit on) and Gatti. That's it.

See how easy that was 4Corners?

This is the logic you use.

I'm not saying Cotto should have or shouldn't have fought this guy or that guy, like you're claiming, I'm saying in the end Cotto has 3 wins above average. And nothing you say or anyone can say changes that.

You don't think Cotto's resume is a bit weak given the hype he got, and how he was/is thought of by some???

[4Corners]

What I'm telling you is, there was NO ONE HE COULD'VE FOUGHT AT THE TIME TO CHANGE YOUR MIND.

I had to put it in CAPS so you can understand.

Floyd didn't fight not 1 guy, except for Ricky Hatton, that you're asking Cotto to fight. Not 1.

In fact, Floyd didn't even fight 1 guy that Cotto did beat 08 and prior. The 3 that he did fight (Corley, Sosa, and Judah), Cotto stopped them all, while floyd UD'd them.

Why did Floyd fight over the hill Cotto instead of Lara, Kirkland, Williams, Martinez, ect?

See how easy that was.

Just stop man. Your double standards, flip flopping and what not is ridiculous

Why would Floyd have fought Williams in 2012 when he fought Cotto???

Martinez is also a Middleweight man, maybe the question you should be asking is why can't Sergio seem to fight the fights at 160 we want, as of late???

I'm not saying Cotto should have fought this guy or that guy, I'm saying his wins are weak given the hype he got. Good god, it's like talking to a child.

So if there was no one else to fight at the time to change anyone's mind, you're in agreement that his resume is pretty weak given his hype??? Good talk, we agree.

[BoxingGenius27]

I'm not saying Cotto should have or shouldn't have fought this guy or that guy, like you're claiming, I'm saying in the end Cotto has 3 wins above average. And nothing you say or anyone can say changes that.

You don't think Cotto's resume is a bit weak given the hype he got, and how he was/is thought of by some???

I can do the SAME exact thing to Mayweather's record that you're doing to Cotto's record.

How much you wanna bet?

What I'm saying is in your eyes, there's nothing Cotto could've done for you to put him slightly above average.

Had he done the same thing Mayweather did from 06-09, we're not even having this conversation.

So you create a thread to downplay a man that actually went through the gauntlet instead of ducking?

GTFOH with that crazy logic. It's beyond ridiculous.

I can chop and screw Mayweather's resume the same way you're doing Cotto's. Again, it's ****** logic you're applying. Simply ******

[BoxingGenius27]

The thing is Mayweather already has the clottey's and malignaggis of the world on his resume at 130 and 135. He travelled through more weights

True, but even then, Mayweather wasn't considered elite until after the DLH victory in 07.

Also, just because you accomplished decent wins early in your career, doesn't mean you stop there like Mayweather did from 06-08. You still had these monsters at the time:

Cintron
Marg
Williams
Mosley
Cotto
Quintana
Clottey

Not to say Floyd couldn't beat these guys, but fcuk you still gotta fight them.

Who knows, maybe Floyd has wear and tear on his body like Cotto did after fighting the plasterman in 08

[4Corners]

I can do the SAME exact thing to Mayweather's record that you're doing to Cotto's record.

How much you wanna bet?

What I'm saying is in your eyes, there's nothing Cotto could've done for you to put him slightly above average.

Had he done the same thing Mayweather did from 06-09, we're not even having this conversation.

So you create a thread to downplay a man that actually went through the gauntlet instead of ducking?

GTFOH with that crazy logic. It's beyond ridiculous.

I can chop and screw Mayweather's resume the same way you're doing Cotto's. Again, it's ****** logic you're applying. Simply ******

Well Mayweather has a much longer list of wins against ranked fighters and what not, when compared to Cotto. It's not even a good comparison.

Cotto beat Corley, Quintana, Mosley, Judah, Clottey, and Foreman who were in the Top 10 in any division he fought them in. That's it.

When you compare that to Pacquiao or Mayweather, it's terrible. But Cotto gets hype as one of this era's greatest fighters, but in reality Cotto was a real good fighter who got mega hype it seems wasn't quite warranted by his resume.

[4Corners]

True, but even then, Mayweather wasn't considered elite until after the DLH victory in 07.

Also, just because you accomplished decent wins early in your career, doesn't mean you stop there like Mayweather did from 06-08. You still had these monsters at the time:

Cintron
Marg
Williams
Mosley
Cotto
Quintana
Clottey

Not to say Floyd couldn't beat these guys, but fcuk you still gotta fight them.

Who knows, maybe Floyd has wear and tear on his body like Cotto did after fighting the plasterman in 08

Mayweather wasn't considered elite until after Oscar, really??? He was a Top 10 P4P fighter since 1998.