Comments Thread For: Martinez, not Golovkin, is the middleweight for Mayweather

[hitking]

Martinez is done. He won't be back until next year, and even then may not be healthy. Quite a few think he lost his last fight.

Mayweather-Martinez isn't that important anymore.

I had his last fight close, but had him winning it. Plus, he was injured and fighting an unbeaten fighter. That doesn't classify a guy a "done."

As for the importance of the fight. Martinez is still the legitimate middleweight champ and you'd be hard pressed to find a P4P list with him not on it. I'd say that makes the fight pretty important. Unless of course the "importance" of the fight hinges on how likely Floyd is to lose the fight.

[KickAzz]

Sergio is now a cherry pick?!

Martinez is ripe for the Cherrypicker to pick

[BoxingFollower]

I had his last fight close, but had him winning it. Plus, he was injured and fighting an unbeaten fighter. That doesn't classify a guy a "done."

As for the importance of the fight. Martinez is still the legitimate middleweight champ and you'd be hard pressed to find a P4P list with him on it. I'd say that makes the fight pretty important. Unless of course the "importance" of the fight hinges on how likely Floyd is to lose the fight.

Martinez is seen to be right where HAGLER was when Leonard swopped in and beat him. Slowing down and age showing.
Leonard got full credit for that win, and May would (should) get the same.

[MDPopescu]

I like how people are saying Sergio is ripe for the picking when he still EASILY beats all of these media hyped fighters easily.

Mayweather
Glovokin
Cotto
Canelo

All are easy work for King Martinez.

I admire your candid belief that Martinez would somehow become a later version of B-Hop... But in order for this to turn into reality it takes that Martinez immediately gets proper medical treatment and recovery surveillance in the U.S.

[bojangles1987]

Martinez is seen to be right where HAGLER was when Leonard swopped in and beat him. Slowing down and age showing.
Leonard got full credit for that win, and May would (should) get the same.

Leonard got full credit for that win because he came out of a 3 year retirement to do it. And Hagler was slowing, but he wasn't constantly injured and didn't arguably lose his last fight.

[BoxingFollower]

Leonard got full credit for that win because he came out of a 3 year retirement to do it. And Hagler was slowing, but he wasn't constantly injured and didn't arguably lose his last fight.

No Leonard got full credit for that fight because people were actually LEGIT boxing fans back then, you had no fanboys and people in the sport with a motive, other than Promoters.

Their are some people that would argue that Hagler won and that Leonard waited until Hagler got old, not a legit argument in my opinion.

[bojangles1987]

I had his last fight close, but had him winning it. Plus, he was injured and fighting an unbeaten fighter. That doesn't classify a guy a "done."

As for the importance of the fight. Martinez is still the legitimate middleweight champ and you'd be hard pressed to find a P4P list with him not on it. I'd say that makes the fight pretty important. Unless of course the "importance" of the fight hinges on how likely Floyd is to lose the fight.

Yeah, yeah, unbeaten fighter blah blah blah. Murray is a nice fighter, a solid fighter, but that's all. Martinez was knocking those types of fighters out before all his injuries.

That fight showed us Martinez isn't who he used to be. Mayweather-Martinez at one point would have been the best fight in the sport. It's not even close to that anymore, especially if Martinez moves down to 154 like he would almost certainly have to. We'd be talking about the oft-injured, 39 year old middleweight champion moving down to a weight he hasn't fought at in 4+ years by the time this fight could happen next year.

I don't consider that a fight I'm too interested in. Just because people once wanted to see Mayweather, or any boxer, once fight a guy, doesn't mean we always consider that fight to be huge when the evidence before us tells us the fight doesn't mean nearly as much anymore.

[The Big Dunn]

I had his last fight close, but had him winning it. Plus, he was injured and fighting an unbeaten fighter. That doesn't classify a guy a "done."

As for the importance of the fight. Martinez is still the legitimate middleweight champ and you'd be hard pressed to find a P4P list with him not on it. I'd say that makes the fight pretty important. Unless of course the "importance" of the fight hinges on how likely Floyd is to lose the fight.

Not lose-lose by knockout. the sad thing is the guys that likely give floyd the best fights are all highly skilled guys that don't have one punch KO power-the same guys that posters immediatley eliminate because they don't think there is a chance for floyd to get KO'd.

SO it will continue to be find the biggest puncher at or near floyd's weight and annoint them the guy to beat floyd based simply on power.

[bojangles1987]

No Leonard got full credit for that fight because people were actually LEGIT boxing fans back then, you had no fanboys and people in the sport with a motive, other than Promoters.

Their are some people that would argue that Hagler won and that Leonard waited until Hagler got old, not a legit argument in my opinion.

For the sake of this argument and not wanting to get side-tracked, I'll put my feelings on Hagler getting screwed aside.

Leonard was retired and came back to beat one of the greatest middleweight champions ever. Mayweather fighting and beating Martinez doesn't even belong in the same book as that fight anymore, let alone the same sentence. Saying Leonard waited for Hagler to get old and show vulnerabilities isn't ridiculous, since Leonard himself acknowledged it, but it's kind of a moot point when Leonard was retired.

[The Big Dunn]

Yeah, yeah, unbeaten fighter blah blah blah. Murray is a nice fighter, a solid fighter, but that's all. Martinez was knocking those types of fighters out before all his injuries.

That fight showed us Martinez isn't who he used to be. Mayweather-Martinez at one point would have been the best fight in the sport. It's not even close to that anymore, especially if Martinez moves down to 154 like he would almost certainly have to. We'd be talking about the oft-injured, 39 year old middleweight champion moving down to a weight he hasn't fought at in 4+ years by the time this fight could happen next year.

I don't consider that a fight I'm too interested in. Just because people once wanted to see Mayweather, or any boxer, once fight a guy, doesn't mean we always consider that fight to be huge when the evidence before us tells us the fight doesn't mean nearly as much anymore.

while the injuries are clear-Could sergio have had a bad night in his last fight considering he was at home for the 1st time in ages and the circumstances surrounding the fight?