Can someone help me about the Mayweather vs Top Rank Situation?

[HeroBando]

Im confused...when was trinidad more relevant than de la hoya post 2001? After the beating he took from hopkins and then winky wright, if youre talking about de la hoya in 2006-7 trinidad was basically finished at that point. im not sure how you came to that conclusion.

even as far back at 2006 people thought de la hoya mayweather would do 1-1.5 million buys

there ya go, nowhere near 2,5m.

AFAIK the combined p4p ranking for Tito was a lot higher than for Floyd. DLH was pretty much a non factor p4p when he fought Floyd. DLH Tito was the 2 best guys around at he weight, in their primes

[bravestone]

How many years apart was that? You must be hoping nobody is reading your stuff closely

Did Floyd's stock drop after the DLH PPV blockbuster?

You working for Top Rank? You seem to be awfully smitten with his positions

[HeroBando]

Did Floyd's stock drop after the DLH PPV blockbuster?

You working for Top Rank? You seem to be awfully smitten with his positions

No it didn't. It went up beyond any reasonable projection. Good for him, too bad for Arum but he'll manage with all these newly open HBO dates and Mr HBO Shiming

Man you're wasting my time with this. No I don't work for TR, though if I could merge business and pleasure... Hook me up if you got a connection lol. My feeling is, both TR and GBP are scumbags as you probably must be to get far in that business. But only GBP plays holier than thou (complete with the fingerpointing), and it's the same hypocrisy dynamic we're seeing now with the Floyd CW.

Will you now promise not to recycle these questions after having everything thoroughly explained? Or is this like a 23rd edition?

[bravestone]

No it didn't. It went up beyond any reasonable projection. Good for him, too bad for Arum but he'll manage with all these newly open HBO dates and Mr HBO Shiming

Man you're wasting my time with this. No I don't work for TR, though if I could merge business and pleasure... Hook me up if you got a connection lol. My feeling is, both TR and GBP are scumbags as you probably must be to get far in that business. But only GBP plays holier than thou (complete with the fingerpointing), and it's the same hypocrisy dynamic we're seeing now with the Floyd CW.

Will you now promise not to recycle these questions after having everything thoroughly explained? Or is this like a 23rd edition?

Sorry but id rather pay attention to people that answer the thread rather than guys like you going off on strange tangents about Donaire and Rigondeaux

[HeroBando]

Sorry but id rather pay attention to people that answer the thread rather than guys like you going off on strange tangents about Donaire and Rigondeaux

I'm just explaining to you man, fighters have promoters, and these rip them off. Since the beginning of time. 1 super privileged fighter got away and made it big time, another got away and made it big time by piggybacking on the other one. Another one had the opportunity maybe, but he never cared to be a promoter, he's got a higher ambition lol. Which can be just as profitable even (especially!) in a place like the Philipines.

[bravestone]

1) Arum didnt really want to do business with oscar at all. He's a bitter old man who holds grudges.

2) back In 06 cotto wasn't yet a star although he was more popular than margarito. Arum had no intentions putting cotto in with floyd yet. Cotto wasn't ready yet and that would ruin his plans with cotto, as for hatton I don't remember him being offered less than with margacheato.

3) no, I believe after that prior to the baldomir fight floyd teamed up with al haymon and they already planned to buy out his contract. After the fight he did just that and pursued oscar.

Arum still owed floyd mills for the gatti fight and wasn't getting the amount he was supposed to have got. So he left him. Just like cotto and oscar. Too bad PAC didnt he would've made just as much as floyd. Maybe more because of his endorsements.

Seems like the most rational response. Thanks man. I understand now.

[Pacquiao'd]

DLH/Mayweather was the biggest fight in boxing. and it seemed Arum wanted no part of it.

No parts of may PAC either

[Pretty Boy Greg]

I don't know that he miscalculated, it was an outlandish request based on standard promoter math. He did miss out on a lot of money, but it was far from obvious and a very low percentage play. Basically if you're the kind to engage in those, you don't get to be top ranked promoter for longer than I'm alive. China, now that's a percentage play and a serious power move, but most here play checkers, not chess so it'll take a while to sink in.

May was only guaranteed 15 mil and Oscar was 45.. Forbes magazine provided that info. That's what they made when all said and done

[jack2x]

1) Arum didnt really want to do business with oscar at all. He's a bitter old man who holds grudges.

2) back In 06 cotto wasn't yet a star although he was more popular than margarito. Arum had no intentions putting cotto in with floyd yet. Cotto wasn't ready yet and that would ruin his plans with cotto, as for hatton I don't remember him being offered less than with margacheato.

3) no, I believe after that prior to the baldomir fight floyd teamed up with al haymon and they already planned to buy out his contract. After the fight he did just that and pursued oscar.

Arum still owed floyd mills for the gatti fight and wasn't getting the amount he was supposed to have got. So he left him. Just like cotto and oscar. Too bad PAC didnt he would've made just as much as floyd. Maybe more because of his endorsements.

@#1----if arum doesn't want to do business with de la hoya then why did arum let pac fought de la hoya?

[HeroBando]

May was only guaranteed 15 mil and Oscar was 45.. Forbes magazine provided that info. That's what they made when all said and done

Thanks. That makes the 20m guarantee request even less reasonable