I'll say it... Guillermo Rigondeaux is probaby the most skilled boxer of all time.

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  • !! Shawn
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    #191
    Originally posted by stefl14
    The numbers don't lie, as Mayweather would say. He connects at a higher percentage and the connect percentage against him is lower, even though his punch output is higher and he has fought better opposition on average.

    If you're looking for specifics though, Mayweather is better at inside fighting, combination punching, not unnecessarily expending energy by relying primarily on foot movement, thus making it look as if he is running, I could go on but I won't because the truth is in the numbers to be honest.
    Show me these numbers.

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      #192
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      Nonito Donaire is not a great fighter.

      Very good fighter, yes. Elite fighter, yes. P4P Top 5 calibur, yes. Great? No.
      Nonito Donaire is a great fighter. He will go down as a hall of famer, and he has had a tremendous run as of late.

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        #193
        Originally posted by stefl14
        Absolutely not. He is just a typical hall of famer. Don't throw around the great word to suit your agenda.
        "Just a typical hall of famer."

        Seriously, when you have to result to that... you know you have lost the argument.

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          #194
          Originally posted by CHEECH
          he'll have to do more to get into the hall but that movement was incredible and the left cross so fast donaire couldnt seem to see it coming. u got that? not the right jab which is the lead hand a foot and a half closer but the left cross. i thought i was halucinatin. great skills, great fighter but 2b a legend u gotta do it over time and a run of a career. iv seen rig fight a couple times before and never seen him that surgically precise. imo the most intriguin match for him now is the one tha mightb the most boring, anselmo moreno. mares showed how to get moreno but can rigo fight that rough aggressive style? anyway, im impressed as hell n loved the fight n the fact that they didnt give it to the name guy like they usually do. the right guy won
          That's a wet dream fight. Moreno is as slick as they come, but he doesn't have the power.

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            #195
            Originally posted by Tim2daresq
            LMFAO. Corrales and JLC??? If you gave Donaire a 122 lb. version of Corrales and JLC, they're both utterly outclassed, and or KO'd.

            No one said he's regarded higher than Floyd. We're saying he's more skilled by a hair. A flight margin.
            I don't think so, but you'll never know. Fact is when Floyd fought Corrales he was ranked in almost the EXACT spot Donaire is currently. Again like I said, I'm not discrediting the win, I gave Rigo mad props, but to compare him to people like Mayweather at this point is attrocious.

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              #196
              Originally posted by stefl14
              Pure conjecture. You know what, I'm gonna put it out there now - Vasyl Lomachenk is better than Rigondeaux and is the greatest boxer of all time.
              He very well could be, its a fight I would love to see.

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                #197
                Originally posted by Grimgash
                I don't think so, but you'll never know. Fact is when Floyd fought Corrales he was ranked in almost the EXACT spot Donaire is currently. Again like I said, I'm not discrediting the win, I gave Rigo mad props, but to compare him to people like Mayweather at this point is attrocious.
                Corrales was not ranked as highly as Donaire. Not to mention, Corrales isn't near as skilled as Donaire. You really think Corrales is a tougher fight than Donaire. Gimme a break.

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                  #198
                  I'm out. Time to hit up the gym like my boy Rigo.

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                    #199
                    Originally posted by Grimgash
                    No. JMM is still regarded higher because of the performance put on, so is Corrales. JLC even though people thought he lost the first one, immediate rematch and blew him out. Mosley was a beast and everyone thought Mayweather was scared and ducking, and he demolished him. I can list the old fights which are impressive too, again in dominate fashion. So mayweather has bigger fights, and a lot more, on his resume... If you're honestly sitting here thinking Rigo is more highly rated as a pro than Mayweather you need to watch a bit more boxing. He's not higher than a LOT of current fighters from this era.
                    Neither Corrales, JLC, nor Mosley were as good as Nonito Donaire when Floyd fought them.

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                      #200
                      Originally posted by junior gong
                      Really??..He was a relatively new world champion and there were many great fighters around at that time. Much as I loved 'Chico' he was never p4p material.

                      I know the ring had him up there, but I always thought that was grossly inflated
                      He destroyed every ranked fighter in his path. The last one left was Floyd Mayweather and he was expected to just be another one on the list.

                      And not just The Ring had Corrales in the Top 5 P4P. Every single list you could find had Corrales in the Top 5 P4P, if not Top 5, top 10.

                      Back then, Corrales was the epitome of P4P Material. He was destroying absolutely everyone in his way.

                      Hindsight is 20-20 but it doesn't change how highly he was regarded at that point.

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