I'll say it... Guillermo Rigondeaux is probaby the most skilled boxer of all time.

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  • !! Shawn
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    #171
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    Mayweather was as wide an underdog as Rigondeaux was.

    And both Donaire and Corrales were Top 5 P4P calibur fighters at those respective times.
    Corrales was puncher, he was never confused with someone who had world class skill.

    Donaire is a puncher with world class skill. I am not demeaning Floyds win or performance over Corrales, it was a great fight, a legitimate challenge, and a good win for him.

    With that said. Corrales is no Nonito Donaire.

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      #172
      Originally posted by stefl14
      You don't know boxing. We could also conclude then that Mark Breland was a great fighter by your logic. You can only ever truly judge a fighter on the basis of his resume.
      We get it. Since Rigo beat someone that's far better than anything on Floyd's resume, Donaire's a bum now.

      JMM super blown up by the time he fought Mayweather and wasn't in his prime.

      Corrales, made to order.

      Oscar, no explanation needed.

      Rigo beats a top p4p fighter in his prime, and all of a sudden Donaire's a bum. I think you don't know **** about boxing, if you're downplaying this win. I honestly don't think you can comprehend how big this fight was.

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        #173
        Originally posted by stefl14
        It's quite obvious that you're trolling now.
        Its quite obvious that you can't refute my arguments.

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          #174
          Originally posted by !! Shawn
          Its quite obvious that you can't refute my arguments.
          I think it's quite obvious we have a bunch of threatened Floyd fans in here.

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            #175
            Originally posted by Tim2daresq
            He just beat Donaire, but Rigo's not a great pro? Dude, what's your major malfunction kid?
            For a start Donaire isn't great. Beating ONE fighter who is a future hall of famer but is not himself great doesn't make you great it makes you a top level fighter but not a great. I'm not dis*****g the fact that he's a top pro but he isn't the most skilled fighter of all time for **** sake.

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              #176
              Originally posted by Heru
              Rigondeaux is one of the most skilled boxers, but The Most Skilled Ever?

              His athleticism (talent) is at the point where he is one of the most talented fighters in boxing. The talent advantages he has muddles the line between his talent and skills.

              Bernard Hopkins has lost hand speed, foot speed, reflex quickness, stamina, etc. but at 48, he's still able to win against top opposition, regardless of the talent advantages they may have... because of skill.

              As soon as RJ Jr aged, we found out what his weaknesses were (not talking about his chin either... more so his lack of inside defense and adjustment ability) because in his prime he was so good at fighting on the outside and avoiding fighting on the inside that he could mask it. Rigo is a great fighter, he has few weaknesses, but we haven't even seen how good his inside fighting ability is either (and he's probably not an elite fighter on the inside)...

              I don't even have to go past the last 20 years to bring up a couple of names that are more skilled than Rigondeaux (B-Hop, Whitaker, and Mayweather).
              That is fair enough, but Rigondeaux is not a fighter like Roy Jones, he is a craft fighter. He does not rely on his athleticism. He controls fighters with his skill and craft.

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                #177
                i gotta admit ive seen em all fight live

                all the big fights

                and last night that was the most skilled fighter ive ever seen in person

                simply amazing

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by stefl14
                  For a start Donaire isn't great. Beating ONE fighter who is a future hall of famer but is not himself great doesn't make you great it makes you a top level fighter but not a great. I'm not dis*****g the fact that he's a top pro but he isn't the most skilled fighter of all time for **** sake.
                  You're downplaying this win to suit your agenda. You can say, "I hate Floyd!" all you want, but it obviously shows you're going through hoops in trying to discredit this win.

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                    #179
                    Originally posted by !! Shawn
                    Its quite obvious that you can't refute my arguments.
                    Not in your eyes because you will never learn. To call Rigondeaux the most skilled boxer of all time is an insult to boxing.

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                      #180
                      Originally posted by Tim2daresq
                      You're downplaying this win to suit your agenda. You can say, "I hate Floyd!" all you want, but it obviously shows you're going through hoops in trying to discredit this win.
                      The only reason I'm trying to discredit this win is because others are overhyping it by saying it makes Rigo the most skilled boxer of all time. If people weren't spouting bull**** like that I'd be all praise.

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