Vitali's legacy

[Weltschmerz]

Your mancrush nonwithstanding the assertion that either Klit is top ten is ludicrious. It has become very obvious that these guys fight who they want, when they want. If Vitali even gave a **** he would at least fight Haye, a decent fighter.

The reason these guys get any credit is because of a weak division and because they are considered to be the future of the heavyweight division....a false and ****** pronouncement from those that do not understand neither evolution as outlined by Darwin and history.

Evolution is such that people do not become bigger in a generation or ten....Furthermore there is absolutely no proof that a kick ass heavyweight has to be more than about 220 pounds. Lewis happened to be a big champ, but "big" has never correlated to success in the history of the heavyweight division....and yes we have more big heavies around right now....IN A WEAK division!

James Toney blew up and beat some of the cream of this present heavyweight crop....so much for size mattering. The Klits are weak champs in a weak division.

Making the classic anti-Klitschko mistake of mentioning the brothers in the same sentence as if they're one fighter.

Everybody knows Haye ducked Vitali, not vice versa.

And I can only laugh at your 'evolution' and 'weak division' remarks, those kind of arguments are so watered down by now that they're beyond laughable. Each era had their share of 'bums', and every single champion down history fought his share of them.

James Toney? Gimme a break. Toney was never a great HW, he's simply a smaller guy who just got fat and lazy over the years.

[Weltschmerz]

On subject, Vitali is nowhere near atg. HOF yes, whether we like it or not, he will get there. ATG, no. Wlad yes, Vitali no.

Vitali HOF yes ATG yes, Wlad HOF yes ATG yes.

Haye nobody, yes.

[LacedUp]

Vitali HOF yes ATG yes, Wlad HOF yes ATG yes.

Haye nobody, yes.

As you said earlier in the thread, users have voted Einstein, Vitali is not an atg. Couldn't care less about Haye's legacy.

He's 10 times better to watch than Wlad and Vitali combined. Deal with that biatch. Your life will be lonely when they hang them up.

[IronDanHamza]

Not even close. Really, not even close.

He's not even an ATG Heavyweight.

Wlad is, though. Vitali's resume and career pales in comparison to his younger brother.

[Weltschmerz]

Not even close. Really, not even close.

He's not even an ATG Heavyweight.

Wlad is, though. Vitali's resume and career pales in comparison to his younger brother.

Seriously? Oh wait, you're the guy who thinks Lewis is no ATG either. Then who's an ATG?

[IronDanHamza]

Seriously? Oh wait, you're the guy who thinks Lewis is no ATG either. Then who's an ATG?

Yes, seriously.

I consider the Top 15 Heavyweight's ATG Heavyweight's and Vitali certainly is not amongst those.

And Lennox Lewis is an ATG Heavyweight.

[bojangles1987]

Too many people combine everything the Klitschkos have done as if they are the same person.

Wlad is a dominant champion. Wlad is an ATG. Vitali is a paper champion during his brother's reign.

[Simurgh]

One of the brothers payed for the fact they are brothers.

One of these two resumes would be much enhanced by fighting and beating the other HOF/ATG fighter.

I tend to think it's Wlad who suffered here as I pick him to beat Vitali from 2008 and on - but 2004 Vitali beats 2004 Wlad so who knows.

Anyhow Wlad is ATG, no doubt. Vitali is HOF.

[VG_Addict]

I'll ask again: What about David Haye?

Or Arrolea? Or Fury?

[Jedi Vader]

Love how Tunney ducked BennyST's post can't believe that guy is still on here with his ****. Been like 5 years now of Klitschko nut-licking wonder how many hours of his life that **** has spent just typing about the Klitschkos