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Originally posted by Sugar Q View PostDoesn't matter. Ward beat everybody in or around 168 that would fight him. This was a win over the best @ 175!!! Truth of the matter is there isn't anyone else out there for him to face.
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Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View PostP4P is the ability to move up or down in weight an perform at a high level. Ward has never done that. He has never even attempted to do that, as of yet. There no talent at 168. He didn't move up and fight Chad at 175. Chad was the one trying to be p4p, not Ward. Ward doesn't skip over Pacquiao or Mayweather then guys have fought in over 7 weight classes! Thats what p4p is! and Sergio is still holding down the 3rd slot.. I need to see Ward at 175 first..
Based on your very whack logic Ali, Louis, Hagler and others wouldn't be eligible for a P4P list. P4P is based on dominance not division jumping. Ali is on everybodies P4P All time list and so is Hagler and others. The only one who would dispute that is a person that knows absolutely nothing about boxing.Last edited by Sugar Q; 09-08-2012, 11:52 PM.
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Ward looked just as good as always & put the correct shots together to get this great victory..But on the other hand Dawson looked weak & looked like going down in weight did affect him & it also looked like Dawson left his heart in Connecticut & forgot to take it to Oakland...Good win for Ward & back to the drawing board for Dawson cause even thou Dawson is still a title holder at light heavyweight, this lost does somehow sets him back..
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Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View PostLOL Chad was mentally beatin going into this fight at the weigh in. I kept pointing it out yesterday. It was easy to see that Chad was unsure of himself and how he'd perform at 68. He was so dry he couldn't even utter a word back at Ward during the face off...
Chad was use to fighting older, slower fighters and had no answer for the young,fresh lion. Remember Chad loss to Pascal.
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Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View PostP4P is the ability to move up or down in weight an perform at a high level. Ward has never done that. He has never even attempted to do that, as of yet. There no talent at 168. He didn't move up and fight Chad at 175. Chad was the one trying to be p4p, not Ward. Ward doesn't skip over Pacquiao or Mayweather then guys have fought in over 7 weight classes! Thats what p4p is! and Sergio is still holding down the 3rd slot.. I need to see Ward at 175 first..
Everyone has their opinions about the P4P rankings (and that is all they are, opinions). Before the Ward/Dawson fight, my top five P4P were: Mayweather, Martinez, Andre Ward, J.M. Marquez and Pacquaio. It doesn't change after this fight. However, if Chavez Jr. beats Martinez next week, I would make Ward number 2.
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the weight drain (alleged) is a red herring. People who know how good ward really is knew there was no way dawson could best him.... Another red herring is wards ko percentage...ward can knock you out....he can also swarm you, beat you up inside and even jab you...the guy has all the skills and takes what he needs when he needs it.... Like Mayweather ward is a fighter...not an athlete, he has been taught how to box and to replace weakness with skill.
By comparison? Dawson is an athletically gifted puncher who can fight on the outside and who has the athletic ability to stay away from other punchers. Dawson also has a chin, and good straight punches. But you have to be Dreaming to think an athletically talented limited fighter with so many weaknesses could Best a guy like ward....at any weight. All ward ever had to do was take the fight inside...dawson had neither the strength or skills to fight inside.a younger Hopkins would have done the same because these guys today CANNOT FIGHT INSIDE!Last edited by billeau2; 09-08-2012, 11:58 PM.
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P4P:
Ward 1/2
PBF 1/2
MArtinez 3
No question i thought Dawson would put up more of a fight but Ward just outclassed him and showed he is a true elite. Mayweather may still be number 1 but Ward closed that gap and even mat have taken it over tonight. I dont care about how many divisions he has fought in, he just beat the best LHW and destroyed all top ranked SMW.
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