Comments Thread For: Team Bute: Hopkins a Good "Plan B" if No Ward, Froch

[BoxingGenius27]

Reading posts it seems a lot more even. Anyone can click a name and not give a viable reason for their position, even I think it's a 50/50 fight.

Ummm, no...

Even reading the posts, the way I interpreted most of them is people are "pulling" for Froch more than they actually think he would win.

Me, myself, I'm pulling for Froch as well. But if he fights him immediately after the tourny as planned, I don't see him pulling off the victory. "Most" people feel the same as shown in the thread.

[BoxingGenius27]

Reading posts it seems a lot more even. Anyone can click a name and not give a viable reason for their position, even I think it's a 50/50 fight.

You think it's a 50/50 fight?

I'm taking Bute in a mid-rounds stoppage. Bute is bigger, faster, harder punch, and probably a better boxer.

Why are you always posting with comments to fit your agenda instead of what's really going on and how you feel?

[turbotime]

I can see how some can discredit a Hopkins victory, but the way I see it, they can discredit a Froch victory as well.

I don't think anyone can discredit a Cloud victory. Especially if he beats him impressively.

I'm just trying to save us some time and excuses. If Bute selects the right opponent the first time around, we as fans and Ward can somewhat acknowledge his resume as being better.

I appreciate you looking out for 'everyone' and the best interests but you're really the only one looking to discredit him fighting Froch.

[BoxingGenius27]

I can see how someone can discredit the Cloud victory. I can see how someone can discredit a victory over Bute for Cloud.

Bute resume is already pretty solid. His resume is good enough where you can rank him as the #1 contender at 168.

The problem with Bute resume is that there hasn't been a versatility of opponents styles. That's the only thing one can criticize without sounding like a hater. Beating Froch or Cloud for that matter doesn't change that perception either. Because, they both have that similar style that Bute has had success over.

Honestly, in my opinion, Bute's opponents styles have nothing to do with his lack of competition in his resume. I think most people feel the same way.

Bute fights more "names" than actual solid fighters "at the time"....

One can look at Bute's record and say wow, he beat Miranda, Mendy, Johnson and a few other guys, but not realize that he beat Johnson and Mendy (basically) coming off losses and Miranda wasn't even a shadow of what he use to be.

My problem with Bute is not "who" he fights, but the "timing" he fights these guys. I don't think it has anything to do with styles.

Put it this way and ask yourself this question. Name some times when Bute's next opponent was announced and you were on the edge of your seat in suspense (i.e "I can't wait for this fight with Bute vs Fighter A, this should be a good one"). ?

That's the thing with Bute. I never get that "I can't wait for this fight to happen" feeling when Bute's opponents are announced. I always get the "Seriously, this guy?", type of feeling. You know what I'm talking about.

[BoxingGenius27]

I appreciate you looking out for 'everyone' and the best interests but you're really the only one looking to discredit him fighting Froch.

If Bute beats Froch, just wait until after the fight to see what I'm talking about. Let's leave it at that.

[turbotime]

If Bute beats Froch, just wait until after the fight to see what I'm talking about. Let's leave it at that.

I don't need other people telling me what to think once hindsight kicks in.

[jrosales13]

Honestly, in my opinion, Bute's opponents styles have nothing to do with his lack of competition in his resume. I think most people feel the same way.

Bute fights more "names" than actual solid fighters "at the time"....

One can look at Bute's record and say wow, he beat Miranda, Mendy, Johnson and a few other guys, but not realize that he beat Johnson and Mendy (basically) coming off losses and Miranda wasn't even a shadow of what he use to be.

My problem with Bute is not "who" he fights, but the "timing" he fights these guys. I don't think it has anything to do with styles.

Put it this way and ask yourself this question. Name some times when Bute's next opponent was announced and you were on the edge of your seat in suspense (i.e "I can't wait for this fight with Bute vs Fighter A, this should be a good one"). ?

That's the thing with Bute. I never get that "I can't wait for this fight to happen" feeling when Bute's opponents are announced. I always get the "Seriously, this guy?", type of feeling. You know what I'm talking about.

I think you're nitpicking at names. Out of all the names you mentioned only Johnson is considered a solid win. I don't think coming off a lose effect Johnson...Maybe his age but not that he was coming off a lose.

But, wins over Berrio, Bika, and Andrade are better wins than the ones you mentioned.

That's why I always say that people who act like Bute has a crappy resume. Is because they don't know enough about his resume or people he beat. But, all those guys have the same similar style.

But, Bute has a good enough resume where you can rank him #1 contender to Ward lineal championship at 168.

[turbotime]

I think you're nitpicking at names. Out of all the names you mentioned only Johnson is considered a solid win. I don't think coming off a lost effect Johnson...Maybe his age but not that he was coming off a lost.

But, wins over Berrio, Bika, and Andrade are better wins than the ones you mentioned.

That's why I always say that people who act like Bute has a crappy resume. Is because they don't know enough about his resume or people he beat. But, all those guys have the same similar style.

But, Bute has a good enough resume where you can rank him #1 contender to Ward lineal championship at 168.

It's pretty obvious he is posting with an agenda to discredit Bute.

[BoxingGenius27]

I think you're nitpicking at names. Out of all the names you mentioned only Johnson is considered a solid win. I don't think coming off a lost effect Johnson...Maybe his age but not that he was coming off a lost.

But, wins over Berrio, Bika, and Andrade are better wins than the ones you mentioned.

That's why I always say that people who act like Bute has a crappy resume. Is because they don't know enough about his resume or people he beat. But, all those guys have the same similar style.

But, Bute has a good enough resume where you can rank him #1 contender to Ward lineal championship at 168.

I'm sorry, but as deep as 168 has been, there's just no reason for him to have the resume he does. The fact that you're even referring to "people not knowing Bute's opponents", says something in itself.

I don't care what he "tried" to do, he just hasn't done it.

[jrosales13]

I'm sorry, but as deep as 168 has been, there's just no reason for him to have the resume he does. The fact that you're even referring to "people not knowing Bute's opponents", says something in itself.

I don't care what he "tried" to do, he just hasn't done it.

I don't think I have mentioned what he has "tried" to do in this discussion. I mentioned what he has done. And, what he has done is enough to warrant a #1 contender ranking to Ward lineal title at 168.