Floyd is a better offensive fighter than Manny! Pac-JMM & PBF-JMM fights prove it.

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  • pistol whip
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    #71
    Originally posted by thatnickuh
    Actually it's not that simple. Mayweather's KO rate is basically the same as Pacquiao's. Mayweather also bloodies his opponents' faces'. Pacquiao throwing more punches doesn't make him a better offensive fighter than Mayweather. If you were going to step and respond to my question, I wish you would have took the time to make an intelligent argument instead of just posting fanboy rhetoric.
    Fanboy rhetoric would require me to be a fan of Pac which I am not. And yes it is that simple Pac destroys people he causes damage. Floyd scores points. And Mayweather giving someone a bloody nose is not the same as shattering an orbital bone or turning Miguel Cotto into a bleeding mess.

    The proof is in the damage inflicted and not in how pretty the punch is. Oh and not only does pac inflict damage he also has some pretty good technique himself.

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      #72
      Originally posted by pistol whip
      Fanboy rhetoric would require me to be a fan of Pac which I am not. And yes it is that simple Pac destroys people he causes damage. Floyd scores points. And Mayweather giving someone a bloody nose is not the same as shattering an orbital bone or turning Miguel Cotto into a bleeding mess.

      The proof is in the damage inflicted and not in how pretty the punch is. Oh and not only does pac inflict damage he also has some pretty good technique himself.
      But doesn't the style of fighter contribute to the damage? Margs and Cotto simply couldn't avoid punches. Of course manny is great offensively, but to some degree its exaggerated because many of his opponents lack defense.

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        #73
        Originally posted by reedickyaluss
        Contrary to popular belief... fans of particular fighters, are separate individuals.
        Not when it comes to this one certain fighter...I can't put my finger on his name...he just fought...I think hes asian.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Everywhere
          Not when it comes to this one certain fighter...I can't put my finger on his name...he just fought...I think hes asian.
          nah, he's black.

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            #75
            Originally posted by thatnickuh
            This is just silly and indicative of someone who doesn't understand or appreciate what he/she is seeing when Mayweather is in the ring. Mayweather displays both great offense and defense when in the ring. It seems that boxing "fans" such as yourself don't appreciate or respect defense. You seem to use Mayweather's defensive skills as a reason to criticize him. Mayweather isn't as offensive as Pacquiao and other fighters is because he doesn't have to be. He doesn't have to get to give. That doesn't change the fact that he's a great offensive fighter who's probably the most accurate puncher in the sport.

            Thats great hes a very active puncher hooray, but he's still boring offensively. I don't know why floyd and his fans like you get so mad at that. Defense is great but Im sorry nobody pays to see a fighter block punches and land the occasional right hand. If you enjoy it hey good for you thats nice, I on the underhand consider floyd to be a fighter with great offensive skills but hardley ever uses them. Just giving enough isn't gonna win points with me.

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              #76
              Originally posted by pistol whip
              Fanboy rhetoric would require me to be a fan of Pac which I am not. And yes it is that simple Pac destroys people he causes damage. Floyd scores points. And Mayweather giving someone a bloody nose is not the same as shattering an orbital bone or turning Miguel Cotto into a bleeding mess.

              The proof is in the damage inflicted and not in how pretty the punch is. Oh and not only does pac inflict damage he also has some pretty good technique himself.
              You're not making much sense. You seem to be making the argument that Pacquiao hits harder, not that he's a better offensive fighter. You need to focus on the actual point of contention. Citing the damage that Pacquiao does to his opponents doesn't prove that he's a better offensive fighter than Mayweather. I say that Mayweather has a better jab, is a better counter-puncher, has a more diverse attack, is more accurate, is just as fast or faster and is just more skilled offensively than Pacquiao is. What will Pacquiao's power mean in a fight with a guy that he can't hit cleanly?

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                #77
                Originally posted by Cash Cow
                Are cotto,margarito,de la hoya and hatton counter punchers
                WTF does that have to do with anything? You went from Floyd being better offensively to now being better offensive against counter-punchers? Did Floyd even face Cotto or Margarito? Since 2008 Floyd has fought 3 times, Manny has fought 9 times in the same span. Manny is the better fighter because he actually um... FIGHTS.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn
                  But doesn't the style of fighter contribute to the damage? Margs and Cotto simply couldn't avoid punches. Of course manny is great offensively, but to some degree its exaggerated because many of his opponents lack defense.
                  And the fighters Floyd fought had that same poor defense. Come on now the only real fighter that had defense was who? 35 year old oscar? Thats great that Cotto and Margarito have no defense but do you really think Floyd would of damaged them the way pac did?

                  You have to take chances to be a great offense fighter, you have to be brave in the pocket.

                  But don't misunderstand what Im saying, Floyd is a very very good offensive fighter. But just not as spectacular as Manny.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by pistol whip
                    Thats great hes a very active puncher hooray, but he's still boring offensively. I don't know why floyd and his fans like you get so mad at that. Defense is great but Im sorry nobody pays to see a fighter block punches and land the occasional right hand. If you enjoy it hey good for you thats nice, I on the underhand consider floyd to be a fighter with great offensive skills but hardley ever uses them. Just giving enough isn't gonna win points with me.
                    I'm not mad at anything. Why would your ignorance anger me? You're a socalled boxing fan who think's the best technical boxer in the sport is "boring". That's a personal problem for you. Obviously I don't agree with that, I enjoy watching Mayweather in the ring. He's a boxing genius in my opinion. It doesn't seem like
                    Mayweather has too much trouble getting people to pay to see him so don't where you're coming from with that "nobody pays to see....." nonsense.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Big Dunn
                      But doesn't the style of fighter contribute to the damage? Margs and Cotto simply couldn't avoid punches. Of course manny is great offensively, but to some degree its exaggerated because many of his opponents lack defense.
                      So... Mosley, JMM, Hatton and Oscar had stellar defense? Manny fought Clottey, who is a great defensive fighter, he didn't lose a round. Please tell me how accurate Floyd was against Cotto or Margarito or Clottey? Oh wait, you can't. Since '08 Manny has fought 9 times, in that same span for Floyd... 3 times. He's fought a 1/3 of what Floyd has and against ALL kinds of fighters.

                      Floyd simply CANNOT K.O you with a legit punch. He hasn't since Hatton and he had to move up to 147 and it took him 11 rounds. Manny can put you down and even have you snoring with a single punch, guys are trying to avoid Manny's punches where as they are trying to hit Floyd.

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