Floyd is a better offensive fighter than Manny! Pac-JMM & PBF-JMM fights prove it.

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  • pistol whip
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    #101
    Originally posted by Cash Cow

    Pac in 3 fights has never landed more than 176 punches on Pac and this was after 7 years and 2 previous fights..

    Mayweather landed 290 after a 16 month layoff
    Please post the compu box stats of Pac vs Oscar and Floyd Vs Oscar.

    If you are going to post stats then don't just post the ones that justify whatever ****** argument you are trying to make.

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      #102
      Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
      Manny KO'd Hatton in 2 rounds it took Floyd 11, Oscar in 8 and actually fought Cotto/Margarito/Clottey. /end thread.
      you cant use those examples...

      1- Oscar didnt fight at WW in almost a decade...Mayweather beat him at the proper weight while Oscar was ranked as the #1 fighter @154lbs and he held the title...#youlose

      2- Hatton was already knocked out by Mayweather 2 years before Manny did...he was undefeated and ranked #5 P4P in the world #youlose

      lets talk about the NOW...

      Pac vs a 2 year older JMM was still only able to land 176 punches

      Mayeather 2 years ago was able to land 290...

      whos the bettsr offensive fighter?

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        #103
        where are the punch stats for mayweather vs cotto, mayweather vs margarito, mayweahter vs clottley? oh that's right and please stfu with the excuses as why pac KO'd hatton faster then floyd... hatton was the number 1 jr welterweight in the world when he lost to manny

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          #104
          Originally posted by pistol whip
          Please post the compu box stats of Pac vs Oscar and Floyd Vs Oscar.

          If you are going to post stats then don't just post the ones that justify whatever ****** argument you are trying to make.
          so comparing the 2009 JMM-Mayweather fight & the 2011 Pac-JMM 3 fight isnt fair?

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            #105
            Originally posted by saul alvarez
            where are the punch stats for mayweather vs cotto, mayweather vs margarito, mayweahter vs clottley? oh that's right and please stfu with the excuses as why pac KO'd hatton faster then floyd... hatton was the number 1 jr welterweight in the world when he lost to manny
            but was he undefeated and p4P # 5? Mayweather beat him 2 years before

            who is Cotto? Do you even know who the first world champion with a title that cotto beat is?

            Margarito the cheater?

            Clottey the punching bag?..

            oh yeah Mayweather ducked some great fighters...lol

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              #106
              Originally posted by pistol whip
              Ugh because Floyd a full fledged welter was fighting a lightweight counterpuncher who had to lead the whole fight. You do understand the saying styles make fights? But i tell you what why don't you post the compubox stats for Oscar vs pac and compare those stats to Floyd vs Oscar?

              I don't have any idea what the compubox stats actually are but I doubt they will work in your favor.

              Also after landing 290 punches on Marquez he didn't even look like he had been in a fight. Just saying
              Pac isnt a full fledged WW?..isnt he ranked #1 @WW? doesnt he have a WW title?

              SO Pac just fought JMM last week ..2 years after Mayweather and after Pacs bets training camp ever?

              Why wasnt Pac able to land more than 176 punches on Marquez but Mayweather did it on a younger JMM?

              Also why was wasnt Manny ever able to land as many as Mayweather in 3 fights? I thought his offense was better , how does a 2 fisted volume puncher get outlanded by and 1 punch at a time runner? ?

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                #107
                Originally posted by Cash Cow
                but was he undefeated and p4P # 5? Mayweather beat him 2 years before

                who is Cotto? Do you even know who the first world champion with a title that cotto beat is?

                Margarito the cheater?

                Clottey the punching bag?..

                oh yeah Mayweather ducked some great fighters...lol
                WTF does mayweather beating hatton first have to do with Manny KOing him in more impressive way have to do with anything? and all those fighters are NOT automatic wins for Floyd

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Carpe Diem
                  It also showed that Floyd is better ring general than him. In some rounds JMM did tried to be the counter-puncher when Floyd tried to be more aggressive and threw more punches, but he just couldn't successfully countered Floyd with multiple combos. He was limited to threw and countered Floyd with just one quick punch here and there, but not at a high pace that he would've wanted to. In some of those late rounds, Floyd threw more punches than JMM even though JMM ended up thrown more total punches by the end of the fight.
                  The CompuBox numbers provided further illumination of Mayweather’s astonishing dominance over an opponent of Marquez’s standing. Consider:


                  * Despite throwing 41 punches per round – nearly 30 percent fewer than the welterweight average of 58.8 – and unleashing 90 fewer blows, Mayweather rolled up advantages of 290-69 in total connects, 185-21 in landed jabs and 105-48 in power connects.

                  * While Mayweather achieved statistical synchronicity by landing at a 59 percent rate in all categories, he yielded very little to Marquez. “Dinamita” failed to detonate as landed just 12 percent of his overall punches (69 of 583), seven percent of his jabs (21 of 288) and 16 percent of his power shots (48 of 295). Contrast that with the figures he put up against the counter-punching Joel Casamayor (31 percent overall and 42 percent in power punches) and one gets an idea of the magnitude of Mayweather’s defensive prowess.

                  * Mayweather held Marquez to single-digit connects in every round (his peak being eight in rounds seven and eight) while landing more jabs than Marquez did overall punches in all 12 rounds. Mayweather hit double-digit connects in jabs in every round except the second, when he landed nine.

                  * The round-by-round percentage gaps border on the absurd given each man’s pedigree. In overall punches the gulf exceeded 50 points in rounds one (58-8), two (69-12), four (68-16), nine (63-10), 10 (59-8), 11 (63-8) and 12 (64-12). That threshold was reached seven times in terms of jabs (including 59-0 and 58-0 shutouts in rounds five and 10) and four times in power punches (the biggest gap of which was 75-8 in round two).

                  * After building an unassailable lead on the scorecards Mayweather turned on the jets in the final four rounds as he out-landed Marquez 138-21 overall, 83-5 in jabs and 55-16 in power connects. In that stretch Mayweather upped his output to 55.5 punches per round as opposed to the 33.8 he threw over the first eight rounds. During that same stretch, Marquez showed extraordinary valor by actually increasing his volume in the face of the massive beating he was absorbing, for he threw 55 punches per round down the homestretch as opposed to the 45.4 punches he averaged over the first two-thirds of the fight.

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                  • Cash Cow
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by saul alvarez
                    WTF does mayweather beating hatton first have to do with Manny KOing him in more impressive way have to do with anything? and all those fighters are NOT automatic wins for Floyd

                    Pac fought DLH at a diff weight....

                    Pac fought Hatton at a diff weight....

                    Mayweather and Pac fought JMM at the same weight, WW....lets compare those #s

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Cash Cow

                      Pac fought DLH at a diff weight....

                      Pac fought Hatton at a diff weight....

                      Mayweather and Pac fought JMM at the same weight, WW....lets compare those #s
                      Pac fought Hatton in a weight HATTON WAS LINEAL CHAMP IN! hatton wasn't even ranked in WW where floyd fought him ****** mofo

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